if i remember correctly, it turns out that that person was actually looking at Global Explorer (or some other 2-airline RTW combo) instead of oneworld Explorer, and for that specific RTW fare, in business class, domestic AA flights are indeed booked in economy and not first...something like that...

According to this routing you only have one transcon. SEA - MIA the others do not count as you are transiting in the midwest. Even though your JFK-SYD flight stops in LAX you are probably transiting hence it does not count. The reason I mentioned this is because last week I called AA twice to check on the rule change and both times they said no it has not changed and only one transcon is allowed.

Am I interpreting this correctly?

I count to two transcons: SEA-MIA and LAX-SJU.

There are very specific city pairs that qualify as a trans-con. SJU - LAX is not on that list and hence does not count as a trans-con.

rich

Maybe the info is already outdated but according to the city-pair list in the "oneworld Explorer Rules and Notes" on fewmiles' web site, updated 26 June 2001, SJU-LAX is considered a transcon.

fewmiles,

i heard the new rule change takes effect on monday july 9th.

so your inferences are right. they are new.

Interesting news pegasus... I will try to get a hold of a new copy of N*/OW EXPLORER for you guys. Anyone have access to Sabre? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

FewMiles..

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What about the Australia transcons? Are these allowed again?

This makes how many rule changes in how many months?

Hi everyone,

I just received today a copy of the latest N*/OW EXPLORER. There are no changes to the transcon rules (North American and Australian) from what I see. The star file is effective 18Jul.

I'll post the updated fare rules to the website when I have a bit more time tonight or tomorrow.

FewMiles..

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TransCon rule directly from SABRE:
ONLY 1 SINGLE PLANE TRANSCONTINENTAL FLIGHT
PERMITTED. TRANSCONTINENTAL FLIGHT IS
DEFINED AS TRAVEL BETWEEN THE
FOLLOWING CITIES:
BWI/BOS/FLL/BDL/ LAS/LAX/OAK/
MIA/EWR/NYC/ORL/ - AND - PDX/SAN/SEA/
PHL/SJU/YYZ/DCA SFO/SJC/YVR
(Sorry for the caps...taken directly from Sabre)
Hope this help settle the controversy.

If your goal is to do transcon mileage runs, there are still a lot of cities that are not included in that list that can get you about the max number possible. Grab a schedule and do a little research. Wont post them here for fear that Rich will use them and ruin it for everyone else. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Darren, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I agree that posting the missing cities would be an error in judgement since it is clear that SEA was added to the West Coast cities only after it was discussed here.

It amazes me that the 1-World powers that be can read these boards and fail to fix some fundamental problems (Lan Chile missing mileage postings for instance) yet they can manage in 24 hours to update a fare rule to include a missing West Coast city.

rich

Yes, how they missed Denver as a west coast city, I will never know.

And you told me that they dont look at this board. They look at your itinerary... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

well, I just took 2 transcon flights with my OWE ticket that was changed earlier last month.. there was no problem checking in or anything, and as I said last time, the ticket was re-issued in DFW by a supervisor, and she didn´t say a thing about it... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif