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Old Jun 20, 2001 | 1:00 pm
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Source for one stop flight listings for RTWs?

It helps to use one-stop single flight number flights in trying to maximize mileage on an RTW.

One gem is AA602 SXM-(SJU)-DFW for 2340 miles without nicking one of your transcons. It took me a while to figure this out. I still can't find the equivalent flight in the other direction for January 2002.

Can anyone guide me to a good place to get listings of one-stop flights? AA has a downloadable planner which is excellent for finding non-stop flights but makes it very difficult to find one-stop flights.

Travelocity used to have a flight details screen where you could put in a flight number and see where it goes. I know which flights go into SXM but I can't find where they're coming from next January.

AA has its gates and times screen but it only works for flights operating today. It's no good for planning.

Thanks in advance,
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P.S. Other gems:
ORD-SJU 2072 non-stop
DEN-BOS 1750 one stop
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Old Jun 20, 2001 | 4:49 pm
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Paul,

With a SEA location why not use the SEA - MIA flights in P Class??? For whatever reason SEA is not on the list of "west coast" cities.

As to the one stop flight question, I would love to find a good souce of that myself.

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Old Jun 20, 2001 | 5:21 pm
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i was on a ord-bos (i think departs 5pm or 530pm) flight once, it was a continuation from somewhere in colorado/nidwest (denver or aspen, i forgot, bu definitely those passenger has a lot of ski-wares)
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Old Jun 20, 2001 | 7:45 pm
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Wow, the omission of SEA slipped by me. I guess I just assumed it was on the list, particularly since PDX is there. I look forward to fitting this one into my next rtw. Thanks for the heads up RichLond.
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Old Jun 20, 2001 | 9:25 pm
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I saw that SEA was missing but assumed it was a typo. If the list is to be strictly interpreted then there are a lot of opportunities such as MIA-RNO, RNO-BOS, PHX-YYZ... EWR-GDL and GDL-SEA are also innovative long one stop flights.

I ended up exporting AA's timetable into Excel and then sorting by flight numbers to see which flights were ongoing. There are not so many flights this way and those that are ongoing are usually one way only. My file is available for download at http://www.fichters.net/aahubs.xls

Is AA81 ARN-ORD-SFO and like ongoing flights from considered one flight for the sake of OWE even though there is a change of planes in ORD? (ARN = Stockholm)

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Old Jun 20, 2001 | 9:44 pm
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PaulSEA1 - I would think AA81 would be considered one flight/sector. I've booked AA90 DFW-ORD-LHR in my current RTW. It's just one coupon in my ticket. I maxed out the sectors based on single flight numbers and no mention was made that I would need an extra sector. So I guess that even if you have to change planes but it is one flight number it only counts as one sector.
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Old Jun 20, 2001 | 10:49 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by PaulSEA1:
Is AA81 ARN-ORD-SFO and like ongoing flights from considered one flight for the sake of OWE even though there is a change of planes in ORD? (ARN = Stockholm)
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I would think so. I have booked, ticketed, SFO-LHR on AA (which is via ORD) but the same flight number.

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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 7:42 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by PaulSEA1:
I saw that SEA was missing but assumed it was a typo. If the list is to be strictly interpreted then there are a lot of opportunities such as MIA-RNO, RNO-BOS, PHX-YYZ... EWR-GDL and GDL-SEA are also innovative long one stop flights.

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Although I agree the ommission of SEA was an oversight, I can tell you from experience that AA is authorizing and ticketing RTWs that include 4 MIA - SEA trans-cons.

Does anyone know why 1-World has this rule anyway?

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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 8:58 am
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Thanks all for the replies. All are favororable answers!
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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 9:44 am
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One flight number, one flight. A sto-sfo flight via ord will count as one intercontinental flight, as long as the flight number doesn't change. As far as finding one stop flights, I have resorted to using the printed AA guide. The current one is a little outdated, but things haven't changed all that much. Otherwise, it will list all of the flights. So under Stockholm, it will list a flight for SFO and the same flight for ORD.


I do actually have a question for all of you. The SFO-ARN flight has a change of guage in ORD, I think from a 757 to a 762. When you book the ticket in D class, which class would you book it in? Would you book each in an appropriate class, or all in A, or somehow all in D?


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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 1:58 pm
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It would be a good deal if you could book the flight in A even though the ticket is only valid for D. The online schedule shows that all three classes are offered from SFO so going strictly by the rules I guess you would have to book in D. However, it would be interesting to turn up at the airport for the SFO-ORD segment and see what cabin they would put you in (if it is 757 operating). If they put you in coach you could argue that the owe rules say that you can be accomodated in first when there is only first and coach offered.

Anyone game to try?
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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 9:56 pm
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In the latest AA flight schedule there is a single flight number (#1937) from LAX-SXM via FLL and SJU for over 3500 miles. (unfortunately doesn't appear return to LAX as a single flight #).

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Old Jun 22, 2001 | 1:38 pm
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AA must be watching. They added SEA to the B list this morning just before I tried to ticket my RTW with multiple SEA-MIA legs.

Argh.
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