Using two RTW tickets at the same time
Feb 9, 2001 | 10:38 pm
#1
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Using two RTW tickets at the same time
Has anyone tried using two RTW tickets at the same time? Or will the airline cancel all your reservations if they find out?
I am planning to do the following with 2 oneworld 3 continent first class tickets:
(The order in in the usage of the flight coupons are shown in the brackets along with comments regarding stopovers)
Ticket 1:
YVR(1)-HKG(stopover for 1 month)(2)-BKK(7)-LHR(8)-YVR
Ticket 2:
BKK(3)-HKG(stopover for 1 month)(4)-YVR(stopover for 4 months)(5)-LHR(stopover for 1 month)(6)-BKK
In effect the "intended" itinerary is as follows:
(1)YVR-HKG "Ticket 1" (to visit family for one month)
(2)HKG-BKK "Ticket 1" (brief vacation in BKK)
(3)BKK-HKG "Ticket 2" (continuing visiting family in Hong Kong)
(4)HKG-YVR "ticket 2" (return to work for 4 months in Canada)
(5)YVR-LHR "ticket 2" (one month trip to Europe)
(6)LHR-BKK "ticket 2" ("vacation" in BKK for a few days)
(7)BKK-LHR "ticket 1" (continue europe trip if i want to)
(8)LHR-YVR "ticket 1" (finally home!!)
Do the oneworld airlines have any prohibition for this kind of ticketing practice?
If they find out, do they have the right to charge me the full first class fare for two return tickets (ie. YVR-HKG-BKK-HKG-YVR and YVR-LHR-YVR) ?
I am planning to do the following with 2 oneworld 3 continent first class tickets:
(The order in in the usage of the flight coupons are shown in the brackets along with comments regarding stopovers)
Ticket 1:
YVR(1)-HKG(stopover for 1 month)(2)-BKK(7)-LHR(8)-YVR
Ticket 2:
BKK(3)-HKG(stopover for 1 month)(4)-YVR(stopover for 4 months)(5)-LHR(stopover for 1 month)(6)-BKK
In effect the "intended" itinerary is as follows:
(1)YVR-HKG "Ticket 1" (to visit family for one month)
(2)HKG-BKK "Ticket 1" (brief vacation in BKK)
(3)BKK-HKG "Ticket 2" (continuing visiting family in Hong Kong)
(4)HKG-YVR "ticket 2" (return to work for 4 months in Canada)
(5)YVR-LHR "ticket 2" (one month trip to Europe)
(6)LHR-BKK "ticket 2" ("vacation" in BKK for a few days)
(7)BKK-LHR "ticket 1" (continue europe trip if i want to)
(8)LHR-YVR "ticket 1" (finally home!!)
Do the oneworld airlines have any prohibition for this kind of ticketing practice?
If they find out, do they have the right to charge me the full first class fare for two return tickets (ie. YVR-HKG-BKK-HKG-YVR and YVR-LHR-YVR) ?
Feb 10, 2001 | 12:47 am
#2
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So long as you keep the two itineraries separate -- under two separate PNRs, I don't think there is anything wrong with it.
If it's oneworld Explorer, the first sector is fixed and for the rest, if you have made reservations with AA or any oneworld partner airlines, you can just cancel all the reservations and ask your travel agent to rebook for all the rest of the flights under booking code A. This is what I usually do. I take control of all the sectors except the first. The rest I make reservations on my own.
I also have two Explorers and reservations for both were made almost at the same time. When I made res. for the second one, AA noticed that I have another reservation but this was because one of the sectors' dates (not the route) overlapped, apparently.
If it's oneworld Explorer, the first sector is fixed and for the rest, if you have made reservations with AA or any oneworld partner airlines, you can just cancel all the reservations and ask your travel agent to rebook for all the rest of the flights under booking code A. This is what I usually do. I take control of all the sectors except the first. The rest I make reservations on my own.
I also have two Explorers and reservations for both were made almost at the same time. When I made res. for the second one, AA noticed that I have another reservation but this was because one of the sectors' dates (not the route) overlapped, apparently.
Feb 10, 2001 | 1:17 am
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Join Date: Feb 2000
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by daniellam:
[B]Has anyone tried using two RTW tickets at the same time? Or will the airline cancel all your reservations if they find out?
You can have as many parallel tickets you want, whether RTW, round trip, ope-jaw, one way etc. as long as you keep the following in mind:
1. The coupon for the individual tickets should be used in sequential order.
2. Keep within the maximum and minimum:
- Stay requirements
- Advance reservation requirements.
Happy travelling.
[B]Has anyone tried using two RTW tickets at the same time? Or will the airline cancel all your reservations if they find out?
You can have as many parallel tickets you want, whether RTW, round trip, ope-jaw, one way etc. as long as you keep the following in mind:
1. The coupon for the individual tickets should be used in sequential order.
2. Keep within the maximum and minimum:
- Stay requirements
- Advance reservation requirements.
Happy travelling.
Feb 10, 2001 | 10:40 am
#4
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as long as you stay with the rules (separately, and parallely). you have the full right to fly whichever way you like.
this should not be anything different from using 2 restricted fare tickets in paralell.
the RTW is so comlicated (for the computer/IT) that i can assure you they will not be able to track it until we are in the blade runner age:_)
in fact, since u haev 2 tickets, why not consider some free side trip in these continents? (e.g. in NA with your ex-bkk tkt)
this should not be anything different from using 2 restricted fare tickets in paralell.
the RTW is so comlicated (for the computer/IT) that i can assure you they will not be able to track it until we are in the blade runner age:_)
in fact, since u haev 2 tickets, why not consider some free side trip in these continents? (e.g. in NA with your ex-bkk tkt)
Feb 24, 2001 | 7:26 pm
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I have used far too many RTWs in parallel. I have made best efforts to make sure that the rules of each ticket are not violated (and none of the rules stated that I cannot have other air travel while a current itinerary is in progress). I have had them on overlappinng OWs (issued by different airline partners and on different PNRs) and Star and other partners. Never had a problem and I specifically asked RTW desk once and they said no probs.