miler

yes SJO being in Central America counts as South America, at least for QF, BA and CX. I am not sure about others though.

lonman

jfk-montreal is expensive? try round trip for $200. and the flight is an hour versus a train ride that is anywhere from 10-15 hrs!!!

give me a break!!!

stealthflier

forgive me, but i only see the 200 rt if you have 21 days, or are staying for less than 30.

it nearly doubles if you don't meet that criteria (which i don't) train -- long but $58 us for one way.

if you can recommend better, i'm listening!

stealthflier

hsi.chang

One option is to finish your RTW trip with NYC-YUL, thus you just don't take that last segment of the RTW, and the return segment of your NYC-YUL-NYC flight. This way the 30-day maximum stay limit does not come into play.

To avoid going through JFK/NYC twice, try YUL-MIA-SJO-DFW-YYZ-HKG

But if you're willing to spend 11 more hours roughing it on a train, do you really want to pay extra for the Business/First class RTW ticket ?



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hsi.chang

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stealthflier

thanks for your reply.
i was going to fly bz for the extra miles since i'm very short this year, but that's open to suggestion. maybe it's worth it for the extra 1200ish dollars?

starting from Canada is a no brainer. i'm still mulling over buying 4 cont. vs. 5. as you can tell, this is my first run for miles.

your suggestion to go montreal-miami-sjo makes a lot of sense.

can you give me any other pointers? i will probably use your suggestions i've seen on another topic about london-cairo-madrid-casablanca-london

i saw your sample routing..is that still the way you would go?

thanks again,

stealthflier

hsi.chang

Unlike you lucky buggers, I don't have the time to do this bonus run at this time. The reason I brought up "roughing it" on the train is because the CX bonus only applies in Business/First, and wanted to be sure that you are indeed shelling out the extra dough for the RTW ticket. Economy RTW would not earn the CX bonus(es).

If you haven't yet, you should study Terenz' posted itenerary (it's somewhere).

stealthflier

thanks again. yes i read his route and your suggestions. based on those, i've made changes to the first and last leg of the rtw hoping i can get 2 SA legs instead of 1. to do this, i sacrifice some extra miles at the end, but i guess i have to compromise somewhere.

montreal-jfk -sjo (stop)
sjo-miami-pty (IB)(less than 24 hrs)
pty-miami AA
miami-toronto-hkg

and return would now be London-NY AA instead of London-lax-jfk

i need to buy my ticket in the next few days which is why i've asked so many questions about the route.

sorry if they've been asked and answered many times, but i think that usa today story about the latin pass brought many many new readers who will be making their first mileage run and who, like me, appreciate all the help and guidance that is given so generously.

Spider

Can you point me to the link (or source) where you got the info from as far as CX and especially BA are concerned (in regareds to South america and hopefully Africa, I also need info about their 24 hour stopover requirement), since I only keep getting the rules for BA EC European members. My question under BA has gone unanswered, so maybe you can shed some light... Thanks.

FTonewfan

According to British Airways -see this link: http://www.britishairways.com/execcl...promos.shtml#1 - SJO is NOT part of So. America but along with the Caribbean is part of NORTH America (I know how stupid this sounds); also according to them Middle East & Asia are one. My question is whether
Morocco (for BA) is part of Africa, or whether it's considered part of Europe as the
Exec Club Tier Point schedule defines it?!

They do not seem to be following their Exec Club area definitions at all in this, which makes it even more confusing for their frequent travelers. I'm sure they'll be catching tons of bonus-hopeful travelers on
technicalities in this promo. Why does it have to be this way??!! So frustrating.

stealthflier

thanks. i would've been had too on that technicality. makes me lean again toward buying 6 continent economy to be sure...

FTonewfan

So, for BA, Cairo is Africa but Tel Aviv is Asia! So close but yet so far apart "continentally" speaking - too bad there aren't any OneWorld carriers operating between those 2!

The other thing I noticed with BA is that a number of Pacific Islands are considered to qualify for "Australia/SW Pacific" - including Tahiti! So, presumably Santiago, Chile-Papeete round trip would qualify you
on the Australia continent, if you use LA.
Too bad QF doesn't fly Papeete-LAX anymore..

I notice the OneW RTW fare is quite a bit less if purchased in Canadian $$ - the rule on the fare is kind of ambiguous on this one -
if the actual tickets are issued here in the
U.S. do they raise the fare to the US $ level? I know this is not the case with
all RTW fares, as I did one a couple of years ago starting from/ending in Korea and made out like a bandit, even though the ticket was issued in the U.S.

Anybody know the answer on the current multi-
carrier OneW RTW fares?

Spider

This is really bad news for my travel plans!! Are there any other programs apart from AA that consider Central America to be South America?


My question is whether Morocco (for BA) is part of Africa, or whether it's considered part of Europe as the Exec Club Tier Point schedule defines it?!

According to their EC link that you just posted it says that Morocco is in Africa but the best thing is to send them an e-mail and get their views in writing. Then when they start changing their rules after your trip you have solid proof.

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stealthflier

i was going to buy 4 cont. in j but now thinking 6 cont in m the best way of getting the 1k bonus on multiple programs.

it's the north america/south america 24 hour rule that's causing me problems.

the only other way i see around this is to buy a ticket from latin america to south america...any thoughts/solutions to this problem?

stealthflier

Spider

I don't think that BA has a 24 hour requirement. There are no Oneworld flights between South and Central America as the only operative is AA and they fly via MIA. The solution to this seems to be buying a separate ticket for MIA-CCS-MIA or to Rio or to wherever there is an AA special.