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Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 36091240)
I guess this depends on your motivation. If you just want to fly a lot of miles and get status flying a long AA segment might suit you. I wanted to get specific flights and not be forced to AA just to have them ticket. As you mentioned YMMV and not everyone in the community will benefit from a long AA leg.
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Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36091254)
. What's with all this judgment about why people are booking these fares? Irrelevant. :confused:
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Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 36091264)
Zero judgement. I feel you’re judging people who book with QF because they want routings AA won’t ticket. *shrug*
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Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36091226)
It sounds like CargoHoldFlyer has the right theory. First overwater carrier determines the fare used. QR has higher DONEx fares than BA ex-CAI, so if you choose "...DOH-BOS..." then the QR fare below kicks in. Note that this is separate from the carrier that actually tickets the booking (QF for the majority/all of oneworld.com bookings).
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Originally Posted by dvs7310
(Post 36091581)
I'm not sure about that theory to be honest because I just changed mine and dropped RJ. The price went down about AU$250 from lower YQ and taxes going QR to DOH directly. I know QF adamantly reprices everything so if that were the case wouldn't they now be using the QR fare instead if the RJ or QF fare? I do recall the QR fare being at least $200 more than the ones priced in EGP.
Then my hunch is that dropping AMM in the beginning and going CAI-DOH-CGK does not change the fare basis that your ticket is priced on. |
Originally Posted by steveholt
(Post 36088251)
Not sure that's it. When I start building the itinerary, the default for the first overwater segment is AMM-LHR-BOS on BA, which is priced on the bottom section as $6545. When I switch that to QR, the price jumps north of $10000, which would align with what you're saying.
If I continue on with that fare where the the first overwater section is DOH and switch the final leg from AKL-DOH on QR to AKL-MEL-SIN-DOH with AKL-MEL-SIN on QF and SIN-DOH on QR, though, the price drops back down to $7398 AUD. |
Originally Posted by LilZeppelin
(Post 36085099)
i have recently successfully ticketed through BA Gold and whose agents are willing to give their email and call you back as promised........
Regarding several comments about using AA for an overwater segment, I would not avoid using them if they offer a flight to where I want to go. Just look at the other forums here on FT and you will find that all of the airlines have 'bad' service/seats/etc. Just a matter of degree. Remember, this is a great deal and I have been flying RTW from the paper ticket days. |
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36091226)
It sounds like CargoHoldFlyer has the right theory. First overwater carrier determines the fare used. QR has higher DONEx fares than BA ex-CAI, so if you choose "...DOH-BOS..." then the QR fare below kicks in. Note that this is separate from the carrier that actually tickets the booking (QF for the majority/all of oneworld.com bookings).
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Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 36090993)
I’ll take the opportunity to point out what I said above: given the difference in BASE fare I suspect it might (incorrectly) changing from a DONE to an AONE. Is there a QR A segment in either itinerary?
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Originally Posted by steveholt
(Post 36092068)
But then why would the base fare drop by several thousand dollars if I switch the final leg from AKL-DOH to AKL-SYD-SIN-DOH, given that they're both QR DONE4s?
This is all speculation and so I cannot answer your question with certainty. Again, YMMV. I would suggest contacting a travel agent with GDS access to understand why your trip is pricing the way it is. |
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36092099)
I have no idea what your itinerary is, let alone what fare it's priced on.
This is all speculation and so I cannot answer your question with certainty. Again, YMMV. I would suggest contacting a travel agent with GDS access to understand why your trip is pricing the way it is. |
Originally Posted by steveholt
(Post 36092193)
The itinerary is here. I understand that you can not answer my question with certainty, but this is a thread to discuss Oneworld pricing and is often used to discuss the RTW tool. I've identified what appears to be a significant bug and so I'm trying to discuss it so we can understand it and see if there's any way for us to benefit.
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Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36091840)
If this was your original routing: CAI-AMM-DOH-CGK (RJ, QR, QR), CGK-NRT (JL), HND-BKK (JL), BKK-HND-JFK (JL), JFK-CLT-STL (AA), STL-SEA (AS), SEA-DOH (QR), DOH-NBO (QR), NBO-DOH-CAI (QR)
Then my hunch is that dropping AMM in the beginning and going CAI-DOH-CGK does not change the fare basis that your ticket is priced on.
Originally Posted by steveholt
(Post 36092068)
But then why would the base fare drop by several thousand dollars if I switch the final leg from AKL-DOH to AKL-SYD-SIN-DOH, given that they're both QR DONE4s?
Originally Posted by steveholt
(Post 36092075)
There's a QR A segment from AMM-DOH. That could be the bug the tool is battling, but it shouldn't be that way: having the end be AKL-SYD-SIN-DOH as opposed to AKL-DOH shouldn't make it a DONE fare again.
Originally Posted by izzik
(Post 36092099)
I have no idea what your itinerary is, let alone what fare it's priced on.
This is all speculation and so I cannot answer your question with certainty. Again, YMMV. I would suggest contacting a travel agent with GDS access to understand why your trip is pricing the way it is. I actually tried to go through an agent the first time I booked one of these but they couldn't get my routing to work when I could 'rig' the OW tool to do it. Much to my dismay that was a QF issued ticket and I learned many lessons along the way. There are A LOT of QF first timers in this thread now with the ex-CAI fare, but trust me do your research and you'll learn how to manage QF. |
I'm with izzik on this.
I priced DONE3 ex-CAI with AA RTW desk. I started with CAI-DOH-HKG all on QR and the base price was close to the image that izzik posted above. I asked AA to replace with CAI-AMM-BKK on RJ as the start and it reduced to the base fare that the Oneworld Explorer tool quoted. Saving some $6000 of my CAD pesos for two of us. Though this is my first *ONE*. So... |
Originally Posted by NotJustDreaming
(Post 36092445)
I'm with izzik on this.
I priced DONE3 ex-CAI with AA RTW desk. I started with CAI-DOH-HKT all on QR and the base price was close to the image that izzik posted above. I asked AA to replace with CAI-AMM-HKT on RJ as the start and it reduced to the base fare that the Oneworld Explorer tool quoted. Saving some $6000 of my CAD pesos for two of us. Though this is my first *ONE*. So... |
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