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leomcarmo Apr 30, 2015 10:52 pm

Any flatbed between european countries?
 
Every business class that i look for between european countries doesn't have flatbeds. I am making my itinerary for my trip in Europe and please if someone knows which airline or which itinerary has a business class with flatbed in Europe, let me know. Thank you!
P.S. Just in Europe

whimike Apr 30, 2015 11:15 pm

Any flatbed between european countries?
 
I flew from FRA-LHR on BA last year, and they were often using a 767 with a flat-bed business class.

paul4040 May 1, 2015 12:07 am


Originally Posted by whimike (Post 24748431)
I flew from FRA-LHR on BA last year, and they were often using a 767 with a flat-bed business class.

They don't often use 767s with flat beds.

That would have been due to an equipment change.

The usual equipment is an A319/320, or a short haul configured 767.

OP: Turkish run a few routes with a 777 to and from Istanbul (which is pseudo-Europe I guess), to places like London. Finnair also have a few A330/40 routes from Helsinki to the Canaries and Spain, too. Some of those have lie flats.

Europe is a small place and lie flat beds aren't really necessary on most routes.

francismc May 1, 2015 12:28 am

Any flatbed between european countries?
 
Iberia uses their A340 from LHR - MAD; which is long-haul configuration. Flat bed setup.

Mwenenzi May 1, 2015 12:39 am

leomcarmo Welcome to the forum


Originally Posted by leomcarmo (Post 24748374)
Every business class that I look for between european countries doesn't have flatbeds. I am making my itinerary for my trip in Europe and please if someone knows which airline or which itinerary has a business class with flatbed in Europe, let me know.

Do you realise how small Europe is? The distance between many airports is small. Which is why many European aircraft are a narrow body A320 B737 type. And trains are a better option than flying for many cities.

paul4040 May 1, 2015 12:44 am


Originally Posted by francismc (Post 24748575)
Iberia uses their A340 from LHR - MAD; which is long-haul configuration. Flat bed setup.

On a few rotations a week, yes. Occasionally it is an A330 which is also flat beds. It's a good product.

dvs7310 May 1, 2015 2:45 am


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 24748597)
Do you realise how small Europe is? The distance between many airports is small. Which is why many European aircraft are a narrow body A320 B737 type. And trains are a better option than flying for many cities.

I certainly have no patience for a train from say Madrid to Warsaw or Rome to Copenhagen for example. Short trips like Brussels to Frankfurt, Paris to Lyon, sure but Europe is not THAT tiny that planes don't make any sense.

Now, needing a flat bed, of course not. But a proper domestic/regional business class like in North America would be light years better than the half assed product nearly universally offered on the continent now.

Gamecock May 1, 2015 2:48 am

La. Mad-fra-mad

SPBanker May 1, 2015 4:34 am

BA at least used to have long-haul configuration between London and Moscow, LHR-DME.

dcjl May 1, 2015 10:30 am


Originally Posted by SPBanker (Post 24749112)
BA at least used to have long-haul configuration between London and Moscow, LHR-DME.

They still do. I flew CW from LHR to DME a few weeks ago in the 777, However, I've noticed on booking sites that they also operate the A321 on the route, which presumably is configured only for CE.

Also, there's some debate as to whether Moscow would be considered Europe. ;)

leomcarmo May 1, 2015 5:02 pm

I know that.

Do you realise how small Europe is? The distance between many airports is small. Which is why many European aircraft are a narrow body A320 B737 type. And trains are a better option than flying for many cities.[/QUOTE]

leomcarmo May 1, 2015 5:03 pm

thank you.

leomcarmo May 1, 2015 5:05 pm


Originally Posted by francismc (Post 24748575)
Iberia uses their A340 from LHR - MAD; which is long-haul configuration. Flat bed setup.

thank you

Traveloguy May 3, 2015 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by dcjl (Post 24750662)
They still do. I flew CW from LHR to DME a few weeks ago in the 777, However, I've noticed on booking sites that they also operate the A321 on the route, which presumably is configured only for CE.

Also, there's some debate as to whether Moscow would be considered Europe. ;)


I believe that 321 is the BA mid haul and therefore flat bed in J.

Margit May 14, 2015 2:26 am

Why do you need a flat-bed?
 
Like the poster asking "Do you realise how small Europe is?" I can't understand why you would want a flat bed when flying within countries in Europe. Most journeys are only between 1 - 4 hours flying.


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