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Granlor Nov 13, 2015 1:08 pm

It's about time Qantas public relations issued an appropriate apology to elite frequent flyers and Qantas Club members who have been denied access to TBIT lounges without justification. Adequate compensation may be more difficult to determine but at least they should make the effort.
With the return next month of AA flights LAX-SYD and return I would hope the staff are particularly aware of lounge access rules.

MADPhil Nov 13, 2015 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by grussellt (Post 25708805)
It's about time Qantas public relations issued an appropriate apology to elite frequent flyers and Qantas Club members who have been denied access to TBIT lounges without justification. Adequate compensation may be more difficult to determine but at least they should make the effort.

I haven't even had a reply to my email complaint from Mr. X at Qantas. I imagine that they are just planning to wait us out and assuming that we will forget. I did get a somewhat boilerplate response from BA.

allset2travel Nov 13, 2015 7:00 pm


Originally Posted by moa999 (Post 25689513)
AusBT suggests some changes have occured, after talking to oneworld reps..
http://www.ausbt.com.au/oneworld-cla...in-los-angeles

I found one paragraph from the above link, that said (copied and pasted below):
"Similarly, AA’s long-haul business and first class passengers “travelling on a domestic flight to connect to or from an international long-haul flight in a premium cabin as part of single itinerary … too should have (lounge) access.”

Is this true? I though access is allowed regardless of class of service, all other criteria remains same.

Kiwi Flyer Nov 14, 2015 2:24 pm


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 25710252)
I found one paragraph from the above link, that said (copied and pasted below):
"Similarly, AA’s long-haul business and first class passengers “travelling on a domestic flight to connect to or from an international long-haul flight in a premium cabin as part of single itinerary … too should have (lounge) access.”

Is this true? I though access is allowed regardless of class of service, all other criteria remains same.

That sentence is for premium cabin passengers who do not have sufficient elite status for lounge access. Their premium cabin provides lounge access.

Gberg Nov 17, 2015 10:14 am

LAX - TBIT oneworld Lounge Access (Combined thread)
 
Not adding much but also was denied access and don't think I should've been. EXP flying NRT-LAX-PHL in J for long haul, Y for short haul. Long layover so hopped over to TBIT. Emailed Qantas. Was told I was rightly denied access. Quite frustrating

Exec_Plat Nov 17, 2015 11:17 am


Originally Posted by Gberg (Post 25728019)
Not adding much but also was denied access and don't think I should've been. EXP flying NRT-LAX-PHL in J for long haul, Y for short haul. Long layover so hopped over to TBIT. Emailed Qantas. Was told I was rightly denied access. Quite frustrating

Are you an AA EXP?

NRT-LAX on AA?

Gberg Nov 17, 2015 12:22 pm

LAX - TBIT oneworld Lounge Access (Combined thread)
 
Yes, I'm an AA EXP. Flew AA on all segments. Same ticket.

My understanding was with an international ticket, lounge access was granted even on connecting domestic segments

MADPhil Nov 17, 2015 12:37 pm

Deleted as wrong!

Exec_Plat Nov 17, 2015 12:56 pm


Originally Posted by Gberg (Post 25728860)
Yes, I'm an AA EXP. Flew AA on all segments. Same ticket.

My understanding was with an international ticket, lounge access was granted even on connecting domestic segments

You should have had access to the J lounge.

In this case, your access is not based on EXP... but rather it is based on J ticket class:


Connecting between oneworld marketed and operated flights:

First and Business Class customers connecting on the same day of travel, or before 6am the following day, can access the lounge when travelling between an international long haul (a oneworld international long haul flight is defined as an international flight marketed and operated by any oneworld carrier with a scheduled flight time longer than 5 hours) and an international short haul or domestic flight (and vice-versa).
Lounge access will be determined on the international long haul ticketed flight (either First of Business Class) regardless of the ticketed class of travel on the international short haul or domestic flight.
You must be prepared to show your boarding pass or itinerary showing travel in First or Business class on the international long haul flight, in order to access the lounge before your international short haul or domestic flight.
This from the one world site

serfty Nov 17, 2015 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by Gberg (Post 25728019)
Not adding much but also was denied access and don't think I should've been. EXP flying NRT-LAX-PHL in J for long haul, Y for short haul. Long layover so hopped over to TBIT. Emailed Qantas. Was told I was rightly denied access. Quite frustrating


Originally Posted by Gberg (Post 25728860)
Yes, I'm an AA EXP. Flew AA on all segments. Same ticket.

My understanding was with an international ticket, lounge access was granted even on connecting domestic segments

When was this?

If between Oct 17th and Nov 10th staff had been given incorrect information (basically being told to deny access to anyone on AA flights).

This has been rectified.

If I were you I would reply to Qantas citing the above oneworld connecting flight/international information and again asking why access was denied given oneworld rules. Make sure you use the reference number.

no2chem Nov 17, 2015 3:05 pm

Does anyone have any recent experience as an non-AA OWS or OWE getting into this lounge on a domestic AA itinerary?

Will be flying through LAX next Tuesday on a PVG-LAX-SFO itinerary so curious if this issue has been fixed...

Gberg Nov 17, 2015 3:17 pm

It was before Nov. 10 so will do

serfty Nov 17, 2015 6:57 pm


Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 25730075)
Does anyone have any recent experience as an non-AA OWS or OWE getting into this lounge on a domestic AA itinerary?

Will be flying through LAX next Tuesday on a PVG-LAX-SFO itinerary so curious if this issue has been fixed...

I have come across anecdotes in the last week or so that the issue has been rectified, although it apparently took two attempts for management to re-educate staff.

ernestnywang Nov 21, 2015 10:11 am


Originally Posted by Exec_Plat (Post 25729120)
You should have had access to the J lounge.

In this case, your access is not based on EXP... but rather it is based on J ticket class:



This from the one world site

No, Gberg is connecting from NRT, so the AA élite exception does not apply, and he should have been admitted to the F lounge just like other EMDs.

no2chem Nov 24, 2015 7:14 pm

Hi all,

I just left the TBIT ow J lounge. The issue is not completely fixed. I flew in on a PVG-LAX-SFO flight. I am ow Sapphire -- showed the dragon my AA LAX-SFO ticket and airberlin card, and the AA ticket seemed to still be an immediate cause for alarm. At first, she hesitated, then had to go back to check with her manager, and then eventually said OK because you were on an international long haul flight. I let her know that it should be okay even if I was flying short haul, but she seemed to ignore me.

Anyways, I think the conclusion is: expect resistance if you have an AA ticket, and you'll probably have to fight a bit with the agents if you're on a domestic only flight (unless someone has experience otherwise). Probably the agents need another round of re-education. Don't expect a warm welcome from this lounge.


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