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hiima Apr 16, 2015 3:03 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 24405152)
No it is for arrival immigration.

F lounge at LAX is in TBIT whereas your LAX-SFO flight is likely to depart from T4. This means clearing security twice (once in TBIT and again in T4).

You might be able to take the shuttle from TBIT to T4. Emphasis on might.

SNA_Flyer Apr 20, 2015 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 24675894)
If I'm traveling solely in First class for a domestic flight on AA do I have access to the TBIT lounge?

Most likely not.

MADPhil Oct 14, 2015 2:51 pm

Another data point: I was flying out of TBIT to LIH yesterday on AA at 09:15. I was denied access to the Oneworld lounge as BAEC Gold on the basis that I did not have an international flight. The agent cited this as a rule at that lounge. AA seems to operate several domestics out of TBIT so this is a bit of a nuisance until there is an air-side link.

77W_12A Oct 14, 2015 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by MADPhil (Post 25565184)
Another data point: I was flying out of TBIT to LIH yesterday on AA at 09:15. I was denied access to the Oneworld lounge as BAEC Gold on the basis that I did not have an international flight. The agent cited this as a rule at that lounge. AA seems to operate several domestics out of TBIT so this is a bit of a nuisance until there is an air-side link.

They were wrong to deny you access in this case. They can deny an AA Emerald because they aren't entitled to lounge access on US domestic flights but as a oneworld Emerald, you're definitely entitled to use the lounge.

I've used numerous lounges on US domestic flights on the basis of my CX Emerald and have NEVER been denied lounge access.

MADPhil Oct 14, 2015 7:26 pm


Originally Posted by gemini573 (Post 25566010)
They were wrong to deny you access in this case. They can deny an AA Emerald because they aren't entitled to lounge access on US domestic flights but as a oneworld Emerald, you're definitely entitled to use the lounge.

I've used numerous lounges on US domestic flights on the basis of my CX Emerald and have NEVER been denied lounge access.

I have had no trouble at AA lounges but the agent claimed that they had their own rules. She was able to convince a BAEC agent that she was right, or at least to wear her down. The BAEC agent did apologise to me. Had I been bothered I could have gone back to T4 and had I known they would be balky I could have stayed there, as we checking in there. Either the AA agent didn't expect trouble or he didn't notice the Emerald but he didn't say anything.

London Dude Oct 20, 2015 5:44 am

Oneworld's own press release on the new LAX lounge states that:

"The new Business Lounge is available to passengers booked in First or Business Class on oneworld airlines departing from the terminal, or customers holding Emerald or Sapphire status in any oneworld member airline's frequent flyer programme booked in any cabin on a oneworld member airline flight from the terminal."

So they can deny you entry if your OW flight leaves from a different terminal but not if you're on a domestic OW flight departing from that terminal....


url]https://www.oneworld.com/news-information/oneworldnews/-/asset_publisher/QtTQ7EuCzxhd/content/new-los-angeles-lounge/maximized[/url]

MADPhil Oct 20, 2015 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by London Dude (Post 25589805)
Oneworld's own press release on the new LAX lounge states that:

"The new Business Lounge is available to passengers booked in First or Business Class on oneworld airlines departing from the terminal, or customers holding Emerald or Sapphire status in any oneworld member airline's frequent flyer programme booked in any cabin on a oneworld member airline flight from the terminal."

So they can deny you entry if your OW flight leaves from a different terminal but not if you're on a domestic OW flight departing from that terminal....


url]https://www.oneworld.com/news-information/oneworldnews/-/asset_publisher/QtTQ7EuCzxhd/content/new-los-angeles-lounge/maximized[/url]

Thanks, I suppose one could try waving that in front of them.

London Dude Oct 20, 2015 2:09 pm

If I were you, as a BA Gold who was refused entry to the lounge for no apparent reason I'd write a letter with a request for clarification to British Airways' Head of North America and Asia Pacific Customer Service and Operations Steve Clark, who is quoted in Oneworld's press release as saying that "This new lounge facility reflects British Airways' commitment to delivering customer service excellence both in the air and on the ground." ;)

no2chem Oct 28, 2015 4:35 pm

Denied LAX TBIT lounge access, who to complain to?
 
I was denied access today to the oneworld lounge at LAX TBIT. I was flying on an AA domestic itinerary, but I have oneworld sapphire with airberlin gold, which should grant me access.

I have been granted access in the past (as recently as last Friday) , but I usually fly in the evenings when the dragons are trying to keep the lines down. I took the name of the dragon down, he eventually showed me some email that said all domestic itineraries have no access, but this seems contrary to oneworld rules.

Question is, who do I complain to? AA (operating carrier), AB (ffp), QF (lounge op) or oneworld? Anyone had this happen to them before? Maybe I'm in the wrong here?

no2chem Oct 28, 2015 4:44 pm

Apparently theres a thread on this already... so pls merge. Though id still appreciate advice on where to direct complaints.

no2chem Oct 28, 2015 5:11 pm

I want to add that I had a similar experience trying to get in this afternoon (which I posted in another thread that hopefully gets merged). Rude agent this afternoon who I'd swear whispered my race... (maybe others who are the same race as me are doing the same thing? Dunno but really wish I had a recording...). He also kept claiming he was the manager (really? The manager has to stand as a front line agent? Dont make me laugh...)...anyway, left a real bad taste in my mouth... please post if you hear back from any complaints you file...

MADPhil Oct 28, 2015 8:08 pm


Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 25630042)
I want to add that I had a similar experience trying to get in this afternoon (which I posted in another thread that hopefully gets merged). Rude agent this afternoon who I'd swear whispered my race... (maybe others who are the same race as me are doing the same thing? Dunno but really wish I had a recording...). He also kept claiming he was the manager (really? The manager has to stand as a front line agent? Dont make me laugh...)...anyway, left a real bad taste in my mouth... please post if you hear back from any complaints you file...

Your experience sounds worse than mine. I have written a letter to BA and will certainly post any response I may get.

serfty Oct 28, 2015 8:18 pm


Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 25629928)
Apparently theres a thread on this already... so pls merge. Though id still appreciate advice on where to direct complaints.

Actually, I can see this becoming more of an issue and a dedicated thread to being denied access in contravention of *O rules would be a useful reference.

serfty Oct 28, 2015 8:22 pm


Originally Posted by no2chem (Post 25629891)
... I took the name of the dragon down, he eventually showed me some email that said all domestic itineraries have no access, but this seems contrary to oneworld rules. ...

Did the email have specifics on it? As in oneworld airline membership, departure terminal, etc.?

I do note from the other thread the following post:

Originally Posted by London Dude (Post 25589805)
Oneworld's own press release on the new LAX lounge states that:

"The new Business Lounge is available to passengers booked in First or Business Class on oneworld airlines departing from the terminal, or customers holding Emerald or Sapphire status in any oneworld member airline's frequent flyer programme booked in any cabin on a oneworld member airline flight from the terminal."

So they can deny you entry if your OW flight leaves from a different terminal but not if you're on a domestic OW flight departing from that terminal....

https://www.oneworld.com/news-inform...unge/maximized


no2chem Oct 29, 2015 12:36 am

No, it said something to the effect of: all passengers on domestic itineraries are to be denied access regardless of class of service or tier status.

It looked like an internal qf email. I tried to take a picture (stupid me, shouldnt have asked) but he took the paper away. He only begrudgingly produced the email after I showed him the oneworld website he kept referring to had no domestic flight exception of any sort...


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