Etihad to build fourth alliance...
Dec 7, 2014 | 3:59 pm
#17
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EY is not joining any alliance, so they are free to link with any airline that is interested in their proposals. As for SAA leaving their current alliance, fair game i think. Two out of three incumbents alliances are built on the back of a massive, unjustified, and highly distorted european duopoly that never had a reason to exist.
Dec 7, 2014 | 8:56 pm
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Dec 11, 2014 | 2:20 pm
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The row was more or less solved. The Luftfahrtbundesamt (comparable to the FAA) authorized the cooperation, there are just some rather weak limitations like only EU citizens on the board.
Dec 12, 2014 | 1:25 pm
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Dec 13, 2014 | 12:45 pm
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Dec 13, 2014 | 5:42 pm
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no one in the middle like AB...
but you are right the full advantage of AB will only be seen if OW carriers stary flying to Brussels- CX/MH/JL
like CX and JL did to Moscow when S7 joined
going inter Europe it is a pain to have to go to a European end point -LHR/MAD/DME/AMM to say fly from France to Poland or Austria to Poland etc
Dec 14, 2014 | 12:50 am
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but they are all at the ends of the European continent
no one in the middle like AB...
but you are right the full advantage of AB will only be seen if OW carriers stary flying to Brussels- CX/MH/JL
like CX and JL did to Moscow when S7 joined
going inter Europe it is a pain to have to go to a European end point -LHR/MAD/DME/AMM to say fly from France to Poland or Austria to Poland etc
no one in the middle like AB...
but you are right the full advantage of AB will only be seen if OW carriers stary flying to Brussels- CX/MH/JL
like CX and JL did to Moscow when S7 joined
going inter Europe it is a pain to have to go to a European end point -LHR/MAD/DME/AMM to say fly from France to Poland or Austria to Poland etc
Dec 14, 2014 | 1:26 am
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DUS is AB's main hub and comparably central and close to BRU for intra-EU flights whilst avoiding UK taxes for long haul flights. FRA, ZRH, and CDG are actually adding a lot of distance for US to EU connections since they're further south on GC routes.
I'd say OW, by which I mean BA, doesn't value AB very highly since they were traditionally a LCC ,competitor, and still partially owned by another competitor so they are intentionally leaving them underused for long-haul whilst letting them have some intra-EU flights.
If they do leave, it will purely be because Etihad is the largest shareholder. I doubt it would be a wise business decision, but staying in also means playing second fiddle to BA trying to route everything through London even if it is a hodgepodge of disconnected airports and failing ATC computers.
I'd say OW, by which I mean BA, doesn't value AB very highly since they were traditionally a LCC ,competitor, and still partially owned by another competitor so they are intentionally leaving them underused for long-haul whilst letting them have some intra-EU flights.
If they do leave, it will purely be because Etihad is the largest shareholder. I doubt it would be a wise business decision, but staying in also means playing second fiddle to BA trying to route everything through London even if it is a hodgepodge of disconnected airports and failing ATC computers.
Dec 14, 2014 | 2:17 am
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If they do leave, it will purely be because Etihad is the largest shareholder. I doubt it would be a wise business decision, but staying in also means playing second fiddle to BA trying to route everything through London even if it is a hodgepodge of disconnected airports and failing ATC computers.