LCIR29SA ex-HKG
Jun 12, 2013 | 10:01 pm
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LCIR29SA ex-HKG
Hi guys,
I'm looking at a Circle Pacific for my trip to South America next year for the World Cup (from Sydney). I think, without having exact prices available, that a circle pacific + TAM Airpass will be cheaper than return SYD-SCL, LAN Airpass and TAM Airpass.
I'm planning the following itinerary
Syd-HKG (FF Points).
Then Circle Pacific
HKG-LAX (stopover)-LIM-CUZ (stopover)-LIM-SCL-MDZ (stopover)-EZE(Stopover)-GRU(stopover)-SCL-SYD(stopover)-HKG
From LAX I will fly return to LAS but this tips me over the 29,000 miles I believe so I'll buy that separately.
From GRU I will use a TAM Airpass for up to 8 flights in Brazil.
Now I was planning on booking through Qantas Sydney office as ticketing would be quite simple however I believe from an earlier booking 5 years ago that it may be cheaper to do it through AA RTW desk. Is this still correct? How would I pay AA in Hong Kong? Over the phone?
Any other suggestions for itinerary/rules being broken?
I'm looking at a Circle Pacific for my trip to South America next year for the World Cup (from Sydney). I think, without having exact prices available, that a circle pacific + TAM Airpass will be cheaper than return SYD-SCL, LAN Airpass and TAM Airpass.
I'm planning the following itinerary
Syd-HKG (FF Points).
Then Circle Pacific
HKG-LAX (stopover)-LIM-CUZ (stopover)-LIM-SCL-MDZ (stopover)-EZE(Stopover)-GRU(stopover)-SCL-SYD(stopover)-HKG
From LAX I will fly return to LAS but this tips me over the 29,000 miles I believe so I'll buy that separately.
From GRU I will use a TAM Airpass for up to 8 flights in Brazil.
Now I was planning on booking through Qantas Sydney office as ticketing would be quite simple however I believe from an earlier booking 5 years ago that it may be cheaper to do it through AA RTW desk. Is this still correct? How would I pay AA in Hong Kong? Over the phone?
Any other suggestions for itinerary/rules being broken?
Jun 12, 2013 | 11:09 pm
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If you book / pay through QF in Sydney, you'll pay the Australian price instead of the HKG price. For a D fare thats a huge difference. Unsure of the L fare. ExpertFlyer will show the fares from Oz and HKG.
If you want the best deal, book through AA. Ring their RTW office and set up the itinerary (ie book flights). They'll advise on mileage. If you are right on the 29k miles, what you estimate via GCM and what the airline estimates can be wrong by up to 30 to 50 miles (can be either your favour or the airlines). Tell them you'll pay in HKD in HKG.
Next the tricky bit. Go to HKG (the AA office) and buy the ticket or find a travel agent that accepts your cc. IME, AA HKG won't take a fax or scan of your cc. AA is unlikely to give you a Ticket Time Limit (auto cancel if you have not paid after booking) more than a few weeks.
If you want the best deal, book through AA. Ring their RTW office and set up the itinerary (ie book flights). They'll advise on mileage. If you are right on the 29k miles, what you estimate via GCM and what the airline estimates can be wrong by up to 30 to 50 miles (can be either your favour or the airlines). Tell them you'll pay in HKD in HKG.
Next the tricky bit. Go to HKG (the AA office) and buy the ticket or find a travel agent that accepts your cc. IME, AA HKG won't take a fax or scan of your cc. AA is unlikely to give you a Ticket Time Limit (auto cancel if you have not paid after booking) more than a few weeks.
Jun 13, 2013 | 12:54 am
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Doesn't the Oneworld tool (e.g. on oneworld.com) also issue the ticket? I suppose it would be on CX unless you can get an AA codeshare HKG-LAX on the first leg. Serious question, I've never had to buy the ticket online via oneworld.com
Jun 13, 2013 | 1:30 am
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AFAIK the OW tool only does xONEx tickets.
Jun 13, 2013 | 1:37 am
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The online tool can only issue xONEx's.
Jun 13, 2013 | 6:23 am
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Qantas quoted me close to the base fare price I've seen on wandr last week. The phone rep had to convert it from HKD too. I need to add taxes and surcharges though.
If I were to use AA RTW desk to set up the fare, what info would I need to give to a Hong Kong travel agent for them to process payment. Girlfriend grew up in HKG so would have friends who could pay on our behalf.
If I were to use AA RTW desk to set up the fare, what info would I need to give to a Hong Kong travel agent for them to process payment. Girlfriend grew up in HKG so would have friends who could pay on our behalf.
Jun 13, 2013 | 10:03 am
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Qantas quoted me close to the base fare price I've seen on wandr last week. The phone rep had to convert it from HKD too. I need to add taxes and surcharges though.
If I were to use AA RTW desk to set up the fare, what info would I need to give to a Hong Kong travel agent for them to process payment. Girlfriend grew up in HKG so would have friends who could pay on our behalf.
If I were to use AA RTW desk to set up the fare, what info would I need to give to a Hong Kong travel agent for them to process payment. Girlfriend grew up in HKG so would have friends who could pay on our behalf.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...fic-fares.html
Jun 13, 2013 | 7:15 pm
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Just call Cathay Pacific's HK reservations number or email them your itinerary. They will book and take a credit card number over the phone. Far easier than calling AA then having to deal with their GSA.
Star Alliance has an online booking tool for CIRPAC, unfortunately oneWorld doesn't...
Star Alliance has an online booking tool for CIRPAC, unfortunately oneWorld doesn't...
Jun 14, 2013 | 3:16 am
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Jun 19, 2013 | 12:13 am
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On a related note for this thread. The rules have been taken down from the Oneworld website.
I've made contact with a travel agent to get an initial quote. Likely to go through AA for final booking though.
I've made contact with a travel agent to get an initial quote. Likely to go through AA for final booking though.
Jun 19, 2013 | 2:46 am
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Jun 22, 2013 | 8:33 pm
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oneworld Explorer - oneworld
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)here's the link: http://www.oneworld.com/documents/10...f-11335d4c5501
Jun 22, 2013 | 11:05 pm
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The rules' are still published - there's a link in the last dotpoint of paragraph 17 in the "Terms and Conditions" on this page:
oneworld Explorer - oneworld
(You need to click the)
here's the link: http://www.oneworld.com/documents/10...f-11335d4c5501
oneworld Explorer - oneworld
(You need to click the
)here's the link: http://www.oneworld.com/documents/10...f-11335d4c5501
Of the 14 fare products advertised on the oneworld site (8 "Visit" Single-continent fares, 4 "Circle" Multi-continent fares and 2 RTW fares), only the RTW fares (xONEx and xGLOBnn) have publicly available rules on the site.
Jun 23, 2013 | 7:08 am
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As penance, I now publish are the rules ex HKG for xCIRnn as provided by ExpertFlyer:
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Fare Routing Search:
Departing HKG on 23/06/13 for HKG
Fare basis code LCIR26
Flying AA
Rule Category Rule Text
RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
ONEWORLD CIRCLE PACIFIC EXPLORER FARES
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS
SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
CIRCLE-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
FARES APPLY BETWEEN POINTS IN AREA 1 AND AREA 3
VIA THE NORTH/CENTRAL PACIFIC - IE. BETWEEN ASIA
AND THE AMERICAS IN ONE DIRECTION AND VIA SOUTH
PACIFIC - IE. BETWEEN THE AMERICAS AND AUSTRALIA/
NEW ZEALAND IN THE OTHER DIRECTION FOR TRAVEL
TRAVEL ORIGINATING AND TERMINATING IN -
A. AUSTRALIA B. BRUNEI
C. CAMBODIA D. CANADA
E. CHINA F. HONG KONG
G. INDONESIA H. JAPAN
I. MALAYSIA J. MEXICO
K. MYANMAR L. NEW ZEALAND
M. PHILIPPINES N. SINGAPORE
O. SOUTH AMERICAP. SOUTH KOREA
Q. TAIWAN R. THAILAND
S. USA T. VIETNAM ---
FARES APPLY ONLY IF PURCHASED PRIOR TO DEPARTURE.
---
A MAXIMUM OF 16 SEGMENTS INCLUDING SURFACE
SEGMENTS BETWEEN ANY 2 AIRPORTS ARE PERMITTED
FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.
---
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST
JUDGEMENT.
OTHER CONDITIONS
PASSENGER EXPENSES NOT PERMITTED.
---
TWO FREE PIECES OF 23 KILOS EACH SHALL BE
PERMITTED. ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCES MAY APPLY.
REFER TO INDIVIDUAL CARRIER WEBSITES.
ELIGIBILITY NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
DAY/TIME NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
SEASONALITY NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
FLIGHT APPLICATION NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE TOTAL JOURNEY MUST NOT EXCEED AN MPM OF -
-
ACIR22/DCIR22/LCIR22 22000
ACIR26/DCIR26/LCIR26 26000
ACIR29SA/DCIR29SA/LCIR29SA 29000
-
SURCHARGE TABLES ARE NOT PERMITTED
-
NOT EXCEED A TOTAL OF 16 SEGMENTS INCLUDING
SURFACE SEGMENTS BETWEEN ANY 2 AIRPORTS.
---
A. TRAVEL MUST BE ON AA/BA/CX/JL/KA/LA/MH/
NU/QF/RJ/XL/4M AND THEIR AFFILIATES ONLY.
---
B. FOR -CIR22 AND -CIR26 FARES
TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE NORTH/CENTRAL PACIFIC IN
ONE DIRECTION AND THE SOUTH WEST PACIFIC IN THE
OTHER DIRECTION OR VICE VERSA. ONLY ONE NORTH/
CENTRAL PACIFIC CROSSING AND ONE SOUTH WEST
PACIFIC CROSSING IS PERMITTED. TRAVEL ORIGINATING
IN OR INCLUDING SOUTH AMERICA IS NOT PERMITTED.
FOR -CIR29SA FARES
TRAVEL MUST ORIGINATE IN OR INCLUDE SOUTH AMERICA.
TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE NORTH/CENTRAL PACIFIC IN
ONE DIRECTION AND VIA CHILE/ARGENTINA TO/FROM
THE SOUTH WEST PACIFIC PACIFIC USING THE SERVICES
OF QF/LA IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.
---
C. ONLY ONE INTERCONTINENTAL DEPARTURE AND ONE
INTERCONTINENTAL ARRIVAL PERMITTED IN EACH
CONTINENT. CONTINENTS ARE DEFINED AS ASIA / NORTH
AMERICA / SOUTH AMERICA / SOUTHWEST PACIFIC.
---
D. TRAVEL VIA THE CARIBBEAN/BERMUDA AND CENTRAL
AMERICA IS NOT PERMITTED ON ANY FARE.
---
E.TRAVEL ON ANY AA/BA/CX/JL/KA/LA/MH/NU/
QF/RJ/XL/4M CODESHARE SERVICES OPERATED BY
AA/BA/CX/JL/KA/LA/MH/NU/QF/RJ/XL/4M IS PERMITTED.
OTHER CODESHARE SERVICES NOT PERMITTED WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF QF CODESHARE SERVICES OPERATED BY
JETSTAR / JQ /
-
TRAVEL PERMITTED ON THE FOLLOWING AIRLINES WHICH
ARE AFFILIATED WITH/OR WETLEASE PROVIDERS TO
ONEWORLD.
-
AMERICAN AIRLINES - AMERICAN EAGLE INCLUDING
FLIGHTS OPERATED BY SKYWEST / EXPRESSJET /
AMERICAN CONNECTION INCLUDING FLIGHTS OPERATED BY
CHAUTAUQUA.
-
JAPAN AIRLINES - J-AIR - JAL EXPRESS
-
LAN - LAN EXPRESS/LAN PERU
-
QANTAS - ALLIANCE AIRLINES/QANTASLINK OPERATED
BY NATIONAL JET SYSTEMS/EASTERN AUSTRALIA
SUNSTATE AIRLINES/JETCONNECT.
---
F. TRAVEL MAY ORIGINATE AT ANY POINT FOR WHICH
FARES ARE PUBLISHED AND MUST TERMINATE AT THE SAME
POINT EXCEPT THAT ORIGIN - DESTINATION SURFACE
SEGMENTS ARE PERMITTED AS FOLLOW -
A. WITHIN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
B. BETWEEN USA AND CANADA
---
G. TRAVEL MAY NOT BE VIA THE POINT OF ORIGIN
---
H. TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED VIA ANY COUNTRY IN THE
SOUTH ASIAN SUB CONTINENT.
---
I. SURFACE TRAVEL AND USE OF OTHER CARRIERS
BETWEEN INTERMEDIATE POINTS ALONG THE CIRCLE WHICH
ARE NOT OPERATED BY
AA/BA/CX/JL/KA/LA/NU/QF/RJ/XL/4M IS PERMITTED AT
THE PASSENGERS EXPENSE
AND MUST BE TICKETED SEPARATELY. MILEAGE MUST BE
INCLUDED IN THE MPM CALCULATION.
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
A. RESERVATIONS AND TICKETING
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFED RESERVATIONS FOR THE
FIRST INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT AND ALL PRECEEDING
FLIGHTS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST FLIGHT. SUBSEQUENT
SEGMENTS MAY BE OPEN-DATED. TICKETING FOR
DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN MUST BE COMPLETED AT
LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
EXCEPTION - FOR ECONOMY CLASS RESERVATIONS
MADE 22 OR MORE DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE TICKETS
MUST BE ISSUED AT LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE.
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B. BOOKING CODES FIRST BUSINESS ECONOMY
AA//EXCEPT AA2500-5099// A D L
AA FLIGHTS AA2500-5099 A/Y D/Y L
BA/CX/KA/MH/QF A D L
JL INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS A D L
LA A D/W L
XL/4M D D L
LA /IPC-SCL/ D D L
LA/XL/4N DOMESTIC Y Y L
JL DOMESTIC FLIGHTS
//TO/FROM NRT// J J H
JL/NU DOMESTIC FLIGHTS
//OTHEN THAN TO/FROM NRT// F J Y
RJ D D L
CX/QF PREMIUM ECONOMY R
BA WORLD TRAVELLER PLUS T
JL PREMIUM ECONOMY W
NOTE1-FOR FLIGHTS WHERE FIRST OR BUSINESS CLASS IS
NOT OFFERED OR AVAILABLE PASSENGERS MAY TRAVEL IN
A LOWER CLASS IN THE APPLICABLE BOOKING CODE FOR
THAT LOWER CLASS. THE FARE FOR THE HIGHEST CLASS
USED APPLIES WITHOUT COMPENSATION.
NOTE2-FOR SERVICES WITHIN THE USA WHERE NO
BUSINESS CLASS IS OFFERED BUSINESS CLASS
PASSENGERS MAY BOOK AND TRAVEL IN FIRST CLASS
CABIN /BOOKING CODE A/ SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY.
THIS PROVISION DOES NOT APPLY ON ANY FLIGHT WHERE
BUSINESS CLASS EXISTS BUT IS UNAVAILBLE FOR
BOOKING.
MINIMUM STAY NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
RETURN TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER
POINT MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 10 DAYS AFTER
DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
EXCEPTION - FOR FIRST AND BUSINESS CLASS
TRAVEL - 5 DAYS.
MAXIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
STOPOVERS 2 STOPOVERS REQUIRED AND A MAXIMUM OF 5 PERMITTED ON
THE PRICING UNIT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
A MAXIMUM OF 5 FREE PERMITTED ON THE PRICING
UNIT.
---
ONLY ONE STOPOVER PERMITTED AT ANY POINT.
---
TWO STOPOVERS REQUIRED OUTSIDE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN.
---
A MAXIMUM OF ONE STOPOVER IN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN.
---
A MAXIMUM OF TWO FREE STOPOVERS PER REGION - SWP/
ASIA/NORTH AMERICA/SOUTH AMERICA.
---
WHERE A PASSENGER DISEMBARKS AT ONE POINT AND
RE-EMBARKS AT A SUBSEQUENT POINT ENROUTE THE
POINTS COUNT AS A SINGLE STOPOVER.
WHERE THERE IS A SURFACE SECTOR BETWEEN TWO
REGIONS THIS WILL COUNT AS A STOPOVER IN EACH
OF THE TWO REGIONS HOWEVER FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE
TOTAL STOPOVERS PERMITTED THIS WILL COUNT AS ONE
STOPOVER ONLY.
---
ADDITIONAL STOPS PERMITTED AT AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE
PER STOPOVER OF USD150.00.
- ADDITIONAL STOPOVERS MAY NOT BE PURCHASED IN
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN.
- ADDITIONAL STOPOVERS RESTRICTED TO TWO STOPOVERS
PER REGION.
- CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNT NOT APPLICABLE.
TRANSFERS UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
A/ UNLIMITED ONLINE/INTERLINE TRANSFERS PERMITTED
BETWEEN AA/BA/CX/JL/KA/LA/MH/NU/QF/RJ/XL/
4M. SUBJECT TO MILEAGE/SECTOR LIMITATIONS.
B/ NOT MORE THAN 3 TRANSFERS AT ANY ONE CITY
PERMITTED.
COMBINATIONS SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOT
PERMITTED.
END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH
NO RESTRICTIONS.
BLACKOUT DATES NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
SURCHARGES NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
ECONOMY CLASS PASSENGERS MAY TRAVEL IN CX/JL/QF
PREMIUM ECONOMY CABIN OR BA WORLD TRAVELLER PLUS
CABIN FOR AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE PER FLIGHT SEGMENT
OF -
SECTORS BETWEEN SWP AND NORTH AMERICA - USD1450
SECTORS BETWEEN SWP AND SOUTH AMERICA - USD1450
ALL OTHER SECTORS ASIA - USD950
BOOK IN -
BA - T CLASS
JL - W CLASS
CX/QF - R CLASS
IDENTIFY AS A -Q- IN THE FARE CALCULATION
IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE APPLICABLE SECTOR.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
FOR TICKETS NOT ISSUED IN JPY/USD APPLY
THE USD AMOUNT AT THE ROE.
FROM HKG TO HKG, SECTOR SURCHARGE OF HKD 33 APPLIES.
FROM HKG TO HKG, SECTOR SURCHARGE OF HKD 33 APPLIES.
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
SALES RESTRICTIONS EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA/AY/BA
CX/IB/JL/KA/LA/LP/MH/QF/RJ/XL/4M.
EXCEPTION - WHEN JQ OPERATED QF MARKETED IS
INCLUDED IN AN ITINERARY BA/IB/MA/MX STOCK
CANNOT BE UTILISED.
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WHEN TRAVEL ORIGINATES IN A COUNTRY FOR WHICH A
SPECIFIC LOCAL CURRENCY FARE IS PUBLISHED AND THE
TICKET IS SOLD IN ANOTHER COUNTRY THE FARE WILL BE
THAT PUBLISHED FOR THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
CONVERTED TO THE CURRENCY OF THE COUNTRY OF SALE
AT THE BANK SELLING RATE. THE RESULTANT FARE MUST
NOT BE LOWER THAN THAT FROM THE COUNTRY OF SALE.
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RULES NOT APPLICABLE
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY NOT PERMITTED.
PENALTIES NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
VOLUNTARY CHANGES/REROUTING/PENALTIES -
FEES AS DESCRIBED BELOW MAY BE WAIVED IN CASE
OF CERTIFIED DEATH/ILLNESS OF THE PASSENGER OR
PASSENGERS IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR ACCOMPANYING
PASSENGER.
----
LOCAL SERVICE FEES MAY APPLY ON REBOOKING/
REROUTING/REISSUE OR REFUND.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
REBOOKING/REROUTING -
1. PRIOR TO DEPARTURE. -
A. CHANGES TO THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT AND
PRECEDING FLIGHTS ARE NOT PERMITTED LESS THAN
SEVEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE FIRST
TICKETED FLIGHT. DATE/TIME/ONEWORLD CARRIER/
INVENTORY CHANGES TO OTHER FLIGHTS PERMITTED
PROVIDED TICKETED POINTS REMAIN THE SAME.
B. CHANGES TO DATE/TIME/ONEWORLD CARRIER/
INVENTORY CHANGES MADE SEVEN OR MORE DAYS
PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE FIRST TICKETED
FLIGHT ARE PERMITTED PROVIDED TICKETED POINTS
REMAIN THE SAME. IF THE FIRST COUPON IS
CHANGED AND THE FARE LEVEL HAS INCREASED
SINCE TICKET ISSUANCE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THE OLD AND NEW FARE WILL BE CHARGED. IF THE
FARE LEVEL HAS DECREASED SINCE TICKET
ISSUANCE NO REFUND WILL APPLY.
C. CHANGES OTHER THAN TO DATE/TIME/ONEWORLD
CARRIER/INVENTORY PERMITTED AT A CHARGE OF
USD125.00 PER TRANSACTION. IF THE FARE LEVEL
HAS INCREASED SINCE TICKET ISSUANCE THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OLD AND THE NEW FARE
WILL ALSO BE CHARGED. IF THE FARE LEVEL HAS
DECREASED SINCE TICKET ISSUANCE NO REFUND
WILL APPLY.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
2. AFTER DEPARTURE. -
A. DATE/TIME/ONEWORLD CARRIER/INVENTORY CHANGES
ARE PERMITTED PROVIDED TICKETED POINTS REMAIN
THE SAME.
B. CHANGES OTHER THAN TO DATE/TIME/ONEWORLD
CARRIER/INVENTORY PERMITTED AT A CHARGE OF
USD125.00 PER TRANSACTION.
C. NO SHOW REQUIRES REBOOKING AT A CHARGE OF
USD125.00
D. IF THE REROUTING RESULTS IN A CHANGE TO THE
TOTAL TICKETED MILES THE TICKET SHALL BE
RECALCULATED. TICKET MAY BE REISSUED TO ANY
APPLICABLE EXPLORER FARE VALIDATING ALL RULES
OF THE NEW FARE EXCEPT FOR RESTRICTIONS ON
RETROACTIVE USE. REROUTING FEE APPLIES
WHEN THE RESULTING FARE IS LESS THAN OR EQUAL
TO THE ORIGINAL FARE. NO REFUNDS APPLIES.
SEE UPGRADING PROVISIONS WHEN RECALCULATION
RESULTS IN A NEW FARE BASIS AT A HIGHER
VALUE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
CANCELLATIONS AND REFUNDS -
1. AFTER TICKET ISSUANCE - CANCELLATION/NO SHOW
FORFEIT 10 PERCENT OF TICKETED FARE FOR ECONOMY
CLASS FARES /11 PERCENT EX AUSTRALIA-INCLUDING
GST/. FORFEIT 5 PERCENT OF TICKETED FARE FOR
BUSINESS/FIRST CLASS FARES /5.5 PERCENT EX
AUSTRALIA-INCLUDING GST/.
2. IN CASE OF REFUSAL OF OFFICAL DOCUMENTS/ENTRY
PERMIT/VISA A FULL REFUND WILL APPLY PROVIDED
OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION FROM THE APPROVED
AUTHORITY IS PRODUCED AND ATTACHED TO THE
REFUND REQUEST.
3. FOR PARTIALLY USED TRANSPORTATION THE REFUND IF
ANY WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE
PAID AND THE FARE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION USED
LESS THE FEE SPECIFIED IN /1/ ABOVE.
NOTE - FOR TICKETS SOLD IN VENEZUELA ANY FULL OR
PARTIAL REFUND MUST BE PROCESSED THROUGH THE
ORIGINAL ISSUING LOCATION IN VENEZUELA.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
UPGRADING
1. AN ECONOMY CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE MAY BE UPGRADED
TO A HIGHER TIERED CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE OR A FIRST/
BUSINESS CLASS CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE WITHOUT FEE.
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2. A BUSINESS CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE MAY BE UPGRADED
TO A HIGHER TIERED CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE OR A FIRST
CLASS CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE WITHOUT FEE.
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3. A FIRST CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE MAY BE UPGRADED
TO A HIGHER TIERED CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE WITHOUT
FEE.
---
4. UPGRADING BY SECTOR TO BUSINESS/FIRST CLASS IS
NOT PERMITTED.
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5. AT ANY TIME THE CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE MAY BE USED
AS CREDIT TOWARDS PAYMENT OF ANY HIGHER FARE FROM
THE POINT OF ORIGIN PROVIDED THE CONDITIONS OF THE
HIGHER FARE HAVE BEEN MET. NO FEE WILL APPLY.
WHERE SUCH CREDIT IS TOWARDS ANOTHER EXPLORER FARE
RETROACTIVE USE WILL BE PERMITTED. REISSUED
TICKETS MUST BE ENDORSED / NON REF /XXX -- XXX
EQUALS CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE BASIS CODE/ AND THE
ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
NON-REFUNDABLE. IF THE UPGRADED TICKET IS
SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELLED THE ORIGINAL FEE WILL
APPLY.
HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.
TICKET ENDORSEMENTS THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- VALID ON ONEWORLD ONLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
TICKETS MUST SHOW BY USE OF AN INSERT STICKER
THAT TRAVEL IS AT A SPECIAL FARE AND SUBJECT TO
SPECIAL CONDITIONS.
AND - THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE
ANNOTATED - NONREF - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
TICKETS MUST SHOW BY USE OF AN INSERT STICKER
THAT TRAVEL IS AT A SPECIAL FARE AND SUBJECT TO
SPECIAL CONDITIONS.
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN ARE NOT ACCEPTED FOR
TRANSPORTATION USING THE CIRCLE PACIFIC
EXPLORER FARE.
OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
IF AN INFANT REACHES TWO YEARS OF AGE AFTER
TRAVEL HAS COMMENCED BUT BEFORE TRAVEL IS
COMPLETE - A FULL CHILD FARE TICKET MUST BE
PURCHASED FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.
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UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN ARE NOT ACCEPTED FOR
TRANSPORTATION USING THE CIRCLE PACIFIC
EXPLORER FARE.
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.
AGENT DISCOUNTS NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS FARE RULE
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
APPLICABLE TO AA ONLY.
/AA/ RULE 755 SENIOR SAAVER CLUB
RULE 1810 SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT CLUB NOT
PERMITTED.
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
SRC/SENIOR CITIZEN PSGR 65 OR OLDER. ID REQUIRED
- NO DISCOUNT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
RULE 1810 - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
FARE BY RULE NOT APPLICABLE.
GROUPS NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
GROUP TRAVEL USING THESE FARES IS PERMITTED FOR
BUSINESS CLASS AND ECONOMY CLASS TRAVEL ONLY.
A/ ELIGIBILITY- NO REQUIREMENTS
B/ MINIMUM GROUP SIZE-
ECONOMY CLASS - 10 PASSENGERS
NOTE - MAXIMUM GROUP SIZE 30 PASSSENGERS
BUSINESS CLASS - 10 PASSENGERS
NOTE - MAXIMUM GROUP SIZE 15 PASSENGERS
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL- GROUP
REQUIRED TO TRAVEL TOGETHER FOR
THE ENTIRE ITINERARY.
D/ DOCUMENTATION- NO REQUIREMENTS-
E/ NAME CHANGES AND ADDITIONS- NAME CHANGES
AND ADDITIONS ARE NOT PERMITTED AFTER
THE TICKETING DEADLINE.
F/ TICKETING CARRIERS GROUP POLICY SHALL
APPLY
BOOKING CODES
BUSINESS ECONOMY
AA/BA/CX/JL/KA/LA/MH/
NU/QF/RJ/XL/4M I G
TOURS NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
DEPOSITS NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
VOLUNTARY CHANGES IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE USD 100.00/CAD 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL
FARE COMPONENTS AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE
A. BEFORE JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE FARES IN EFFECT
TODAY
B. AFTER JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE HISTORICAL FARES
BASED ON TRAVEL COMMENCEMENT
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
2. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE USD 100.00/CAD 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL FARE
COMPONENTS AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
IN THE CASE OF DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER -
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE HIGHEST FEE
OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE
A. BEFORE JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE FARES IN EFFECT
TODAY
B. AFTER JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE HISTORICAL FARES
BASED ON TRAVEL COMMENCEMENT
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
2. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
IN THE CASE OF DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER -
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE HIGHEST FEE
OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE HIGHEST FEE
OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES - ONLY BOOKING CODE
CHANGES PERMITTED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
2. AA FARES ARE USED
3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
4. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO AA
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
.
VOLUNTARY REFUNDS NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
NEGOTIATED FARES NOT APPLICABLE.
INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
.
Last edited by serfty; Jun 23, 2013 at 8:13 pm