LONE3 - Flights after returning to country of origin
Oct 17, 2011 | 10:49 pm
#1
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LONE3 - Flights after returning to country of origin
Hi,
A friend of mine is flying the following route for work and I am trying to help him maximise his LONE3.
HKG/LON/ZRH/LON/YYZ/NYC/YYZ/HKG
After he returns to HKG is he able to take an additional 2 flights within Asia i.e HKG-DPS-HKG to maximise his ticket and mileage?
I've seen the below on the OneWorld Website but don't quite get it.....
"You are allowed to take two stopovers in total within your continent of origin in order to get to or from a gateway to begin or return from your international travel of which a maximum of 1 stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin."
Thanks
A friend of mine is flying the following route for work and I am trying to help him maximise his LONE3.
HKG/LON/ZRH/LON/YYZ/NYC/YYZ/HKG
After he returns to HKG is he able to take an additional 2 flights within Asia i.e HKG-DPS-HKG to maximise his ticket and mileage?
I've seen the below on the OneWorld Website but don't quite get it.....
"You are allowed to take two stopovers in total within your continent of origin in order to get to or from a gateway to begin or return from your international travel of which a maximum of 1 stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin."
Thanks
Oct 17, 2011 | 11:02 pm
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No he cannot take additional flights; rule 4(f) is the killer:
So once he returns to HKG the ticket is over
Only one international departure and one international arrival from/to the country of origin permitted
Oct 18, 2011 | 12:05 am
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You are allowed up to four flight segments in Asia, and because it is the continent of origin - only two stopovers
If you stop in NRT and return home on a separate ticket, then NRT counts as one of the two allowed stopovers - so one stopover left, but four flight segments still available
Something like this might be attractive:
...NRT-xBKK-oCMB-xSIN-HKG, or
...NRT-oDEL-xBKK-xNRT-PVG
(this second to show that the itinerary can end in China - this is specifically allowed in the rules)
(x = transit, meaning strictly less than 24:00hrs from scheduled arrival to scheduled departure
o = stopover)
Note also that AA flies from the USA to PEK and PVG - so either of those could be your first Asian stopover
Oct 18, 2011 | 12:49 am
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JL has a daily NRT-CAN flight
So the return from YYZ could be say ...YYZ-ORD-xNRT-oCAN-xNRT-oDEL-HKG
and presumably your friend can make his own way from CAN to HKG easily enough?
(I am assuming here that HKG and China are regarded as separate countries for the purpose of the "one departure from, one arrival to country of origin" rule)
and presumably your friend can make his own way from CAN to HKG easily enough?
(I am assuming here that HKG and China are regarded as separate countries for the purpose of the "one departure from, one arrival to country of origin" rule)
Oct 18, 2011 | 1:44 am
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So the return from YYZ could be say ...YYZ-ORD-xNRT-oCAN-xNRT-oDEL-HKG
and presumably your friend can make his own way from CAN to HKG easily enough?
(I am assuming here that HKG and China are regarded as separate countries for the purpose of the "one departure from, one arrival to country of origin" rule)
and presumably your friend can make his own way from CAN to HKG easily enough?
(I am assuming here that HKG and China are regarded as separate countries for the purpose of the "one departure from, one arrival to country of origin" rule)
Could he go JFK-HKG-CAN also to reduce the connections and save a sector?
Oct 18, 2011 | 2:33 am
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Edit - rule 4 (d)
Travel may not be via the point of origin
Last edited by SwissexLUG; Oct 18, 2011 at 2:43 am
Oct 18, 2011 | 9:17 am
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There are different prices for starting points for a LONE3 - see this website:
http://www.wandr.me/RTW_Fares.aspx/ByProduct/LONE3
It could be better to just get a ticket to one of the cheaper places, HKG would be a stop and you still have 4 sectors from there.
http://www.wandr.me/RTW_Fares.aspx/ByProduct/LONE3
It could be better to just get a ticket to one of the cheaper places, HKG would be a stop and you still have 4 sectors from there.
Oct 18, 2011 | 5:46 pm
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Another idea:
Your friend could start from CAN instead of HKG
CAN-xHKG-LON-ZRH-LON-YYZ-NYC-YYZ-HKG
then later have a 3 segment intra-Asia trip with one stopover, ending in China
or HKG
perhaps
HKG-oDEL-xBKK-HKG or
HKG-oTPE-xNRT-PVG or
your original idea HKG-oDPS-HKG
- maybe with a final add-on HKG-oDPS-xHKG-PEK or anywhere else in China that CX/KA flies to
Your friend could start from CAN instead of HKG
CAN-xHKG-LON-ZRH-LON-YYZ-NYC-YYZ-HKG
then later have a 3 segment intra-Asia trip with one stopover, ending in China
or HKG
perhaps
HKG-oDEL-xBKK-HKG or
HKG-oTPE-xNRT-PVG or
your original idea HKG-oDPS-HKG
- maybe with a final add-on HKG-oDPS-xHKG-PEK or anywhere else in China that CX/KA flies to
Oct 18, 2011 | 8:23 pm
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Another idea:
Your friend could start from CAN instead of HKG
CAN-xHKG-LON-ZRH-LON-YYZ-NYC-YYZ-HKG
then later have a 3 segment intra-Asia trip with one stopover, ending in China
or HKG
perhaps
HKG-oDEL-xBKK-HKG or
HKG-oTPE-xNRT-PVG or
your original idea HKG-oDPS-HKG
- maybe with a final add-on HKG-oDPS-xHKG-PEK or anywhere else in China that CX/KA flies to
Your friend could start from CAN instead of HKG
CAN-xHKG-LON-ZRH-LON-YYZ-NYC-YYZ-HKG
then later have a 3 segment intra-Asia trip with one stopover, ending in China
or HKG
perhaps
HKG-oDEL-xBKK-HKG or
HKG-oTPE-xNRT-PVG or
your original idea HKG-oDPS-HKG
- maybe with a final add-on HKG-oDPS-xHKG-PEK or anywhere else in China that CX/KA flies to
Oct 18, 2011 | 8:39 pm
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