If TAP is bought by IAG.
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The legislation isn't going to change in this Congress, no matter how badly investment bankers want it. It took sixteen years to allow Mexican trucks into the U.S. after NAFTA authorized it and appeals confirmed it, and that's trivial compared to the issue of majority foreign ownership of a U.S. carrier. It is simply politically impossible in this climate.
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The legislation isn't going to change in this Congress, no matter how badly investment bankers want it. It took sixteen years to allow Mexican trucks into the U.S. after NAFTA authorized it and appeals confirmed it, and that's trivial compared to the issue of majority foreign ownership of a U.S. carrier. It is simply politically impossible in this climate.
OTOH, if enough competing airlines (other than United which wants to merge with LH) manage to bribe enough politicians to prevent legislation, then...
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Members of Congress, like most all politicians, vote according to who stuffs their wallets. So if the industry puts up enough cash, it will happen. They will just spin it as a good thing for consumers, blah, blah, blah.
OTOH, if enough competing airlines (other than United which wants to merge with LH) manage to bribe enough politicians to prevent legislation, then...
OTOH, if enough competing airlines (other than United which wants to merge with LH) manage to bribe enough politicians to prevent legislation, then...
I suspect AF/KL might be interested in doing something with DL too, so in theory we might have three transatlantic marriages should congress be willing. Many are keen to keep open skies so whilst I could see is being temporarily delayed, I suspect it will happen.
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Members of Congress, like most all politicians, vote according to who stuffs their wallets. So if the industry puts up enough cash, it will happen. They will just spin it as a good thing for consumers, blah, blah, blah.
OTOH, if enough competing airlines (other than United which wants to merge with LH) manage to bribe enough politicians to prevent legislation, then...
OTOH, if enough competing airlines (other than United which wants to merge with LH) manage to bribe enough politicians to prevent legislation, then...
I know I will be calling my congressional representative when the issue comes up. As the recent airline profits prove, we don't need foreign ownership of our airlines.
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On this issue, I don't think corruption will be enough to change the foreign ownership laws. This country is at such a low point that that idea of selling off part of our national transportation system won't pass congress. All the opponents need to do is raise the possibility of some chinese company owning an American airline, and the issue dies. Noone in congress wants to look like a traitor by approving selling out to china.
I know I will be calling my congressional representative when the issue comes up. As the recent airline profits prove, we don't need foreign ownership of our airlines.
I know I will be calling my congressional representative when the issue comes up. As the recent airline profits prove, we don't need foreign ownership of our airlines.
And as this relates to US-EU Open Skies, the legislation could be easily written to exclude China.
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Not to go all political (major airline mergers are inevitably political), but if politicians can trick the voters into believing they are sending our sons and daughters to die in Afghanistan and Iraq to keep our nation safe, then they can easily convince the voters that a UA-LH or IAG-AA "merger of equals" is good for all the nations involved.
Fast forward to a time when people are worried about their jobs, the economy, and the viability of the nation as a whole. I doubt any politician will be able to spin "the selling of America" to people facing such economic distress
I realize we are all airline enthusiasts here, but I fail to understand the enthusiasm for US carriers being absorbed into the IAG, LH Group, AF/KL triopoly? Many here argued that US carriers needed to be owned by foreign interests in order to reach profitability, but we now see that's not true.
We as consumers will not benefit from a lack of competition. Period
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