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Originally Posted by ewong215
(Post 15018938)
Kingbat, you are correct. Basically, anyone with sporting equipment - be it skis, golf clubs - will definitely run into the same problem with mixed carrier itineraries on OneWorld.
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Originally Posted by lazy_flyer
(Post 15007250)
Thanks Dave. I'm sure it makes sense to the airlines themselves, I guess my issue is around why CX gets to determine whether his bag will go for free on a BA flight. And why BA should accept CX doing that.
Originally Posted by IC6A
(Post 15007436)
Dave BA and QF should pay you as executive defense lawyer on board. Your view does not present most of flyers on this forum.
That the rules might be strange, not customer friendly etc is a different debate. |
Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 15019890)
Dave just states the truth hence he should speak for the majority of the forum. Yes, maybe we would like to have things differently but the situation is what it is, BA had the right to charge for the bag and the OP needs to check the rules.
That the rules might be strange, not customer friendly etc is a different debate. |
Originally Posted by ewong215
(Post 15001412)
I recently took a golf trip from HKG to EDI. My routing was:
Outbound: - HKG to LHR on Cathay Pacific - LHR to EDI on British Airways Inbound: - EDI to LHR on British Airways - LHR to HKG on Cathay Pacific I am a Cathay Pacific Gold member (OneWorld Sapphire), and everything worked fine on my outbound trip. I got the shock of my life at the start of my inbound journey. On check-in, I had my golf bag and one small bag to be checked. The BA agent at EDI told me that I was 20 kg over and it would cost GBP45 per kilo to check my bags! My conspiracy/paranoid side says they were waiting for you! Those poor BA baggage handlers on the LHR-EDI leg must have complained of such excessive weight that BA was not being compensated. Must have been quite a fair number of clubs you brought in perhaps a fancy bag in order to get to 20kg over.:p Anyways- it happens all the time- alliance or not a traveler benefits one of the ways on a combo carrier ticket as there are different rules/limits/etc that start with the outbound carrier and the subsequent carriers have to accept the luggage per their agreement without compensation. I like your fedex idea when faced with nonfavorable alliance participants. Slightly off topic- did you tip your caddy a similar amount since he/she presumably had a longer time (than the BA handlers and flight) with your 20kg over bag. :D Also the following comes to mind, does Muirfeld, St Andrews, Troon etc charge extra if you have extra clubs on the course?@:-) |
How then are Oneworld fliers supposed to travel on BA on mixed carrier itineraries with their sporting equipment when it will invariably bring them over their 20Kg allowance? Kingbat, you are correct. Basically, anyone with sporting equipment - be it skis, golf clubs - will definitely run into the same problem with mixed carrier itineraries on OneWorld. |
Originally Posted by kingbat
(Post 15002547)
As a Cathay gold card holder you are entitled to 35Kg when flying Cathay Pacific. British Airways charged ewong without considering his Cathay status. BA could have just charged him the 38 pounds for the BA sector (the cost of the extra bag when flying BA) instead they charged him 545 pounds, when his Cathay status meant that he would have only been 5kgs overweight).
Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 15002150)
Unfortunately Star Alliance is not consistent anymore. NZ is not offering any luggage benefits for *G in long haul business class anymore and they also don't waive the bag charge for short haul routes (they don't call it bag charge but it is effectively the same).
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Originally Posted by Cheetah_SA
(Post 15030813)
Exactly. And I do wonder if BA has paid the money over to CX or just pocketed it? ;)...
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Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
(Post 15002150)
Unfortunately Star Alliance is not consistent anymore. NZ is not offering any luggage benefits for *G in long haul business class anymore and they also don't waive the bag charge for short haul routes (they don't call it bag charge but it is effectively the same).
Extra Baggage Allowance - an additional 20kg (44 pounds) or one additional piece of luggage(2) which means you can check in three bags instead of two. (2)Applies on flights between North and South America Edited to add: I've research NZ, and indeed their interpretation is interesting yet consistent with the above statement "which means you can check in three bags": (at http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/checked-in-baggage) > Long-haul travel (tickets purchased from 26 May 10) Economy 1 piece, max weight 23kg (50 lbs) Premium Economy* 2 pieces, max weight 23kg (50 lbs) per piece Business* 3 pieces, max weight 23kg (50 lbs) per piece Gold Elite / Gold / Star Gold and Koru Club Members 1 additional piece per person, max 23kg (max 3 pieces) (Not applicable with the 'Seat' product on trans-Tasman flights) |
Originally Posted by hillrider
(Post 15039273)
So in other words Star actually understands ex pats and dispersed families' needs (and golfers, skiers/snowboarders, divers, etc.!) better than oneworld.
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 15039368)
If it was based on the "needs" of these groups ( though I would go with "wants" as more applicable ) the allowance wouldn't be based on status but on what the items were
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Originally Posted by JALPak
(Post 15039652)
And why should these groups get special treatments
Dave |
Originally Posted by hillrider
(Post 15039273)
I can't speak for NZ, but have started researching switching to Star (LX/CO/LH/UA), and the benefit is definitely there:Source: http://www.staralliance.com/en/benef...silver-status/
Edited to add: I've research NZ, and indeed their interpretation is interesting yet consistent with the above statement "which means you can check in three bags": (at http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/checked-in-baggage) The benefit on the *A site is not explained properly. From the official Sar Alliance reference Guide for all *A employees: Star Alliance Gold customers are entitled to one additional piece of checked baggage (piece concept) or an additional 20 kilos (weight concept). |
oneworld unresponsive
Interestingly, this problem has been discussed 36 months ago: see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/8825796-post108.html
I don't know what to make of the fact that oneworld still hasn't acted on it. |
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