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"That CX didn't charge anything on the outbound is irrelevant"
I completely disagree with this. This customer booked the same outbound itinerary as the return. Same cities, same carriers. He should have been informed of the charges when he began his journey. At least then, in what is likely his home city, he would have had the option of leaving some things behind in airport storage, picked up by a friend etc. Maybe a selection of the golf clubs would have sufficed, or the OP would have chosen to hire clubs at his destination. Perhaps, for that fee, he would have preferred to leave his clothes behind and buy new ones at the destination. To only announce the charges on the return leg is like a bus company transporting passengers to a remote location and then announcing that the price on the way back will be 10 times greater. For those who say that CX shouldn't have to know BAs policies and vice-versa, IMHO if airlines want to sell combined tickets, which they wouldn't do unless it made good business sense, it IS up to them to properly inform customers of the policies of the other airline. The two airlines are selling one, combined product - the service of getting the passenger from origin to destination. Yes the OP could have checked the fare rules, but those who don't should be punished when they still have the realistic option of choosing not to accept the service (leaving the bags behind). If you book completely different tickets for outbound and return, you obviously need to check more thoroughly. But to have the same itinerary and be only charged when you are powerless to do anything about it is not morally right. |
Originally Posted by hillrider
(Post 15002023)
oneworld Emeralds suffer from the same inconsistencies issues, and am very much considering Star for 2011.
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Originally Posted by lazy_flyer
(Post 15004533)
"That CX didn't charge anything on the outbound is irrelevant"
I completely disagree with this. This customer booked the same outbound itinerary as the return. Same cities, same carriers. He should have been informed of the charges when he began his journey The additional allowance only applies when travelling on the airline where the person has the extra allowance Perhaps people should be expected to do their own due diligence rather than expecting to be nannied . If going to be travelling with double the permitted baggage , he should have taken the time to ask up front |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 15004978)
The additional allowance only applies when travelling on the airline where the person has the extra allowance Perhaps people should be expected to do their own due diligence rather than expecting to be nannied . If going to be travelling with double the permitted baggage , he should have taken the time to ask up front |
Originally Posted by lazy_flyer
(Post 15005103)
I agree with the second part of this in general, but I think there are limits to the number of checks that a person should be expected to make. The first part of your statement is where my problem lies. The OP took the same flights, with the same airlines, just in the opposite direction. In my view it is reasonable to expect that he should be treated the same way in both directions, regardless of who handles the administrative duty of check-in.
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Originally Posted by JALPak
(Post 15005368)
That's why CX should have informed/charged the OP the excess baggage charge on the outbound flights
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Originally Posted by ewong215
(Post 15002579)
I normally do not travel with excess baggages... I fly over 150k on an annual basis with various airlines. It's just that I was on a 10 day golf trip to Scotland. With the equipment and all, it went over the BA limit of 20 kg. ...
These days BA use the "piece" system and you were entitled to one bag up to 23Kg. http://www.britishairways.com/travel...topic=freebags An additional piece should have cost no more than £40. http://www.britishairways.com/travel...topic=freebags |
Originally Posted by serfty
(Post 15007166)
Something does not gel here (Unless this was some time ago.)
These days BA use the "piece" system and you were entitled to one bag up to 23Kg. http://www.britishairways.com/travel...topic=freebags An additional piece should have cost no more than £40. http://www.britishairways.com/travel...topic=freebags That would be valid if the person was connecting BA-BA. Given that it was a connection BA-CX, the weight system applies. The agent appears to have quoted a piece rate if checked through to London but correctly used the weight system with the connection to CX Dave |
Originally Posted by lazy_flyer
(Post 15005103)
I agree with the second part of this in general, but I think there are limits to the number of checks that a person should be expected to make. The first part of your statement is where my problem lies. The OP took the same flights, with the same airlines, just in the opposite direction. In my view it is reasonable to expect that he should be treated the same way in both directions, regardless of who handles the administrative duty of check-in.
To me it is reasonable to expect that a carrier will charge excess baggage for any excess baggage and just because one airline or agent waives it no reason to expect others |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 15007204)
... Given that it was a connection BA-CX, the weight system applies. ...
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Dave
I am probably missing something obvious here, but can you explain to me why it matters who the OP checks in with? Maybe my view of the world is a simple one, but it seems that in each direction he is taking one CX flight and one BA flight. If CX give passengers with the OP's status a free extra allowance for a golf bag and BA does not, then why shouldn't his golf bag go for free on the CX flight in both directions and be charged a fee on the BA flight in both directions? Thanks for your patience. |
Originally Posted by lazy_flyer
(Post 15007224)
Dave
I am probably missing something obvious here, but can you explain to me why it matters who the OP checks in with? Maybe my view of the world is a simple one, but it seems that in each direction he is taking one CX flight and one BA flight. If CX give passengers with the OP's status a free extra allowance for a golf bag and BA does not, then why shouldn't his golf bag go for free on the CX flight in both directions and be charged a fee on the BA flight in both directions? Thanks for your patience. Checking in with BA , he was subject to BAs allowances and was 20Kg over the allowance and was charged for the 20Kg excess for the entire journey. If he had checked in just through to London he would have been charged the piece extra on BA and then would have been subject to CX check in to determine whether he was within the allowance for the CX flight Dave |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 15007232)
He checked in with CX and they allowed the extra allowance for the entire journey including the BA flight
Dave |
Originally Posted by lazy_flyer
(Post 15007224)
Dave
I am probably missing something obvious here, but can you explain to me why it matters who the OP checks in with? Maybe my view of the world is a simple one, but it seems that in each direction he is taking one CX flight and one BA flight. If CX give passengers with the OP's status a free extra allowance for a golf bag and BA does not, then why shouldn't his golf bag go for free on the CX flight in both directions and be charged a fee on the BA flight in both directions? Thanks for your patience. When I have a lot of stuff, baggage policies influences my airline choice. The complication here is BA charges different for a multi-airline itinerary than they would for an all BA metal itinerary. This is what should change - alliances are supposed to make it easy to mix airlines. |
Originally Posted by wanaflyforless
(Post 15007290)
The complication here is BA charges different for a multi-airline itinerary than they would for an all BA metal itinerary. This is what should change - alliances are supposed to make it easy to mix airlines.
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