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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 5:53 am
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Baggage now 23kgs and not PC

Maybe old news, but I just bought a xCIRCxx and noticed the baggage is 2x23 kgs and not PC. Rules for xONEx are the same. I presume this is the latest enhancement?

Also noticed that all of Russia (east and west of the Urals) is "Europe"
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 7:51 am
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xCIRCxx does not involve the Americas, so PC does not apply. PC only applies to itineraries involving the Americas. I don't think there is any change to the rule.
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 8:17 am
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xCIRCxx contains America.
23kgx2 is a modified PCs, 2 pieces of 23kg instead of 32kg.


http://www.oneworld.com/content/libr...rule_sheet.pdf
says
Two free pieces of 23 kilos each shall be permitted.
Additional allowance may apply.
Refer to individual carrier websites.

Some airlines permit only 23kg x 2 for economy class.
Almost(all ?) of airlines permits 32kg x 2 for business/first classes for amrican routes.
So, a little complicated description is used.
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
xCIRCxx does not involve the Americas, so PC does not apply. PC only applies to itineraries involving the Americas. I don't think there is any change to the rule.
As mentioned by the OP, the baggage rule for the One World Explorer fares has also changed ( http://www.oneworld.com/content/libr...are%20rule.pdf )

Originally Posted by OWE rules
Two free pieces of 23 kilos each shall be permitted. Additional allowances may
apply. Refer to individual carrier websites.
Same wording also quoted for the Global Explorer too ( http://www.oneworld.com/content/libr...are%20rule.pdf )

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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
xCIRCxx does not involve the Americas, so PC does not apply. PC only applies to itineraries involving the Americas. I don't think there is any change to the rule.
xCIRCxx is not possible without including North America.
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 5:44 pm
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Urals ref obviously planning for S7 joining oneworld. Also reference in section 4h of OWE Rules that you can only have two segments flying over the Urals.
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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 9:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu
Some airlines permit only 23kg x 2 for economy class.
Almost(all ?) of airlines permits 32kg x 2 for business/first classes for amrican routes.
So, a little complicated description is used.
Indeed. This is likely to result in lots of discussions at check-in with the agent saying the ticket only says 23kg per bag and us saying that the airline website says 32kg per bag.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 12:32 am
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Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
Indeed. This is likely to result in lots of discussions at check-in with the agent saying the ticket only says 23kg per bag and us saying that the airline website says 32kg per bag.
If you plan for that which is specified as being the allowance for the ticket , then no problems

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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
If you plan for that which is specified as being the allowance for the ticket , then no problems

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But the ticket says its 23kg or more depending on what some websites say which will lead to problems if you have a bag with 25kg.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 12:22 pm
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Oops...I mistakenly thought that OP means xONEWCx. Sorry...
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Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
But the ticket says its 23kg or more depending on what some websites say which will lead to problems if you have a bag with 25kg.

If the specified ticketed allowance is 2 x 23Kg then there should be no problem as long as stay within 2 x 23Kg
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 7:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
If the specified ticketed allowance is 2 x 23Kg then there should be no problem as long as stay within 2 x 23Kg
Sure, the trivial case will be the easyone . Its the more complicated ones which will cause the issues. Like always in life.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 8:34 pm
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I speculate that this new rule was written for L class tickets. I suggest that there might be a later addition to cover an increased allowance for D and A classes.
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Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer
Sure, the trivial case will be the easyone . Its the more complicated ones which will cause the issues. Like always in life.
There is no complicated issue. If you have 2x23Kg and you have issues checking the bags in , then you may have some recourse. If you take luggage over the 23Kg or more than 3 pieces and you get charged excess baggage fees, then that's a risk you are taking yourself
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by og
I speculate that this new rule was written for L class tickets. I suggest that there might be a later addition to cover an increased allowance for D and A classes.
I doubt it given that at least one OW airline (AA) has 23Kg limit per piece for business and 1st.

2x23Kg meets the lowest common deonominator. Anything beyond that is at airline discretion
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