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Old Nov 12, 2006, 9:16 pm
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Originally Posted by blahman

I forgot that I had a banana in the outer pocket of my backpack and I placed it on the floor at the baggage reclaim.

In came this little quarantine dog sniffing at my backpack and I got notated by the official (as I had ticked Nothing to Declare). I think she understood that it was a mistake.
A wonder they did not book you for smuggling precious goods.

Bananas run about $US5 a POUND here right now even in supermarkets.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...816251734.html

PRECISELY for this quarantine reason - our crops got wiped out in Cyclone Larry, and they refuse to allow any imports - from anywhere. @:-)
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 9:28 pm
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I have only had my planes sprayed on Varig flights, to and from ASU. the AA flight I once took out of ASU was not sprayed which I found interesting as ALL of the Varig flights have always been sprayed.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 9:48 pm
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I've been sprayed on a UA 744, SFO to Sydney, this was about 7 or 8 years ago.

The explanation given was that United had sprayed the plane properly back
in the US, but the AU gov't didn't get the correct paperwork so they had to
assume the plane had not been sprayed.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 9:58 pm
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I think the general rule is that all planes need to be treated for pests before arrival in Australia.

Generally UA cleans/treats their 747s in such a way that the spraying need not take place when passengers are on board. However, perhaps this particular aircraft was behind schedule for its anti-pest treatments so the spraying with pax on board was necessary.

I'm not sure this is 100% accurate but I think I've heard it somewhere before (probably in a prior flyertalk thread).
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 10:01 pm
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Originally Posted by ozstamps

In well over a decade this has never occurred to me - on proabably 100 arrivals on many carriers.
Maybe this was done for a "Very Special Episode" of Border Security: Australia's Front Line.

Originally Posted by ozstamps
they refuse to allow any imports - from anywhere.

Especially SQ 744s via LAX. Har Har!
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 11:03 pm
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Originally Posted by letiole
I love how they always promise that it's "non-toxic".
i bet that the bugs would tell you otherwise
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 11:39 pm
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Originally Posted by ozstamps
A wonder they did not book you for smuggling precious goods.

Bananas run about $US5 a POUND here right now even in supermarkets.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...816251734.html

PRECISELY for this quarantine reason - our crops got wiped out in Cyclone Larry, and they refuse to allow any imports - from anywhere. @:-)
Are you sure they don't allow imports to create a non-tariff trade barrier?
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 12:49 am
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Originally Posted by ozstamps
Bananas run about $US5 a POUND here right now even in supermarkets.
Don't even think of bringing in bananas as the beagles what double as drug dogs will tear your throat out as they try to find the bananas (or even an empty plastic bag that used to have bananas in them).

And as for spraying, it seems to happen quite reqularly so its nice not to get it. I just breathe through a handkerchief and / or hold my breath for 10 minutes.
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 12:52 am
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I just breathe through a handkerchief and / or hold my breath for 10 minutes.
You can hold your breath for 10 minutes?!
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 12:54 am
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Originally Posted by gba
I think the general rule is that all planes need to be treated for pests before arrival in Australia.

Generally UA cleans/treats their 747s in such a way that the spraying need not take place when passengers are on board. However, perhaps this particular aircraft was behind schedule for its anti-pest treatments so the spraying with pax on board was necessary.

I'm not sure this is 100% accurate but I think I've heard it somewhere before (probably in a prior flyertalk thread).

You are quite correct (although I'm not 100% sure either since I wasn't there ).

UA has a disinsection agreement with Australia. As long as the disinsection for that aircraft remains current, they can land without doing top of descent spraying.

Both ex-USA-SYD stations (LAX & SFO) are very good about keeping the 744s current on their disinsection. However, it's possible either the disinsection expired or the Australian government had not processed the updated disinsection documentation.

SFO has the disinsection cans for spraying upon landing into China (and yes, I remember the top of descent spraying on the TWA flights to Europe, too). I'm not sure if SYD uses the same type of cans, though. Also, UA might not have known there was a problem (i.e. if UA's docs are up to date and the Australian government had not updated the renewal, UA might not know about it).

As for the chaos on the ground, this is precisely why it's better to do such spraying at top of descent, where passenger disembarkation time will not be affected.
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by UA_SEA
I have only had my planes sprayed on Varig flights, to and from ASU. the AA flight I once took out of ASU was not sprayed which I found interesting as ALL of the Varig flights have always been sprayed.
My GRU-LIM RG flight in May was sprayed - quite unpleasant.
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by blahman
I think last time I got sprayed was when I was on Ansett Australia, which is at least 5 years ago.
MH still sprays every KUL-SYD flight as of a couple months ago.
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by ironmanjt

MH still sprays every KUL-SYD flight as of a couple months ago.
No so.

I've flown KUL-SYD First Class on MH 747s about 6 times in the past 2-3 years and never has there been spraying.
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by gba
I think the general rule is that all planes need to be treated for pests before arrival in Australia.

Generally UA cleans/treats their 747s in such a way that the spraying need not take place when passengers are on board. However, perhaps this particular aircraft was behind schedule for its anti-pest treatments so the spraying with pax on board was necessary.

I'm not sure this is 100% accurate but I think I've heard it somewhere before (probably in a prior flyertalk thread).
I was told that they had stopped this nonsense after numerous complaints, at least with respect to planes from the US.

If in fact that is not true I would like to know for certain as I won't be going anywhere that requires noxious chemicals to be sprayed into my airspace.

Which is really a shame as Australia is at the top of my list of places to visit. Can this procedure be avoided by flying via New Zealand?
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Old Nov 13, 2006, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Boraxo
Which is really a shame as Australia is at the top of my list of places to visit. Can this procedure be avoided by flying via New Zealand?
Doesn't New Zealand have even stricter rules than Australia regarding foreign plant- or animal-borne stuff into its rather sensitive and fragile ecosystem?
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