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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 11:35 am
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Hello - I have booked an award tkt in WBC AMS/MSP in March. I have never flown business class with an American airline before and was wondering how to maximise the expeirence, lounges, seats etc. I have checked the sticky on A330 seating and 1A/1B seem to be the most popular. I am travelling solo if that makes any difference. I have no status with any airline so any tips on snagging seats greatly appreciated.

Thanks in Advance.^
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 12:49 pm
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Should be nice. The seats are nice, a bit firm but still much better than coach and the older recliner chairs that CO and DL had. Definately take advantage of the AMS new lounge, #52 I believe, that KLM operates. It's great. The MSP lounge is fine, but nothing particularly special.

Haven't been on Biz Elite since DL has taken over so not sure how the food and other service items are but enjoy!
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by NOLAnwGOLD
Definately take advantage of the AMS new lounge, #52 I believe, that KLM operates. It's great. The MSP lounge is fine, but nothing particularly special.
Per DL's website, business class pax now are relegated to the Menzie's lounge in AMS. Kind of a bummer and not sure how well that is controlled. Same for Syteam Elite +. Skyclub members are apparently the only DL passengers allowed into lounge #52.

The MSP lounge on the C concourse is nicer and newer than the one on the F/G concourse.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by fti
Per DL's website, business class pax now are relegated to the Menzie's lounge in AMS. Kind of a bummer and not sure how well that is controlled. Same for Syteam Elite +. Skyclub members are apparently the only DL passengers allowed into lounge #52.

The MSP lounge on the C concourse is nicer and newer than the one on the F/G concourse.
Unless the rules just changed, I don't think this is accurate. I used #52 last Wednesday with no trouble at all...
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by CGNC
Unless the rules just changed, I don't think this is accurate. I used #52 last Wednesday with no trouble at all...
Glad it worked. Before posting I looked at this link:

http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...ions/index.jsp

And when you enter "business elite" as the method of travel, it does not list #52 as accessible. Those are the rules, and were the rules when I checked about 2 months ago when I booked a business elite ticket for 2 friends and me for travel next year.

But glad that in practice it works.

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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by fti
Glad it worked. Before posting I looked at this link:

http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...ions/index.jsp

And when you enter "business elite" as the method of travel, it does not list #52 as accessible. Those are the rules, and were the rules when I checked about 2 months ago when I booked a business elite ticket for 2 friends and me for travel next year.

But glad that in practice it works.

John
Hmmm. When I choose "Delta Business Elite" it shows #52 on the list still...
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by omadave
Hmmm. When I choose "Delta Business Elite" it shows #52 on the list still...
I think I am blind in one eye and can't see out of the other - I just looked again and all KLM lounges and Menzie lounges are included for Delta Business Elite. I must have just totally missed it. Sorry. But that is good news.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by fti
I think I am blind in one eye and can't see out of the other - I just looked again and all KLM lounges and Menzie lounges are included for Delta Business Elite. I must have just totally missed it. Sorry. But that is good news.
Maybe a Woodstock flashback?
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 6:39 pm
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The food in J on NW and DL is now the same.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 7:19 pm
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Originally Posted by mike_plat
The food in J on NW and DL is now the same.
But now you can't see what the actual menu is for the NW WBC (BE) flights, whereas you could see the menu card before.....
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 7:29 pm
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But now you can't see what the actual menu is for the NW WBC (BE) flights, whereas you could see the menu card before.....
Menu selections for BE are here:

http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...ite/dining.jsp

While these can vary and be a bit different (e.g. Japanese meal to Japan), it does give an idea. These are for both outbound (from CONUS) and inbound (to CONUS)
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 8:13 pm
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I am always pretty excited by the post prandial cheeses and Port
That said, some other things are great. The AVOD system is nice, DL meals are a little better (I actually enjoyed the steak both over and back on the A330 from MSP-LHR a couple of weeks ago.), the comforter (duvet) they give you is nice and I put it on the seat as extra cushion. Finally, though I used to extol row 1, any seat, I have come to enjoy seats 3C and 4C, they are farther from the light from the galley when you get ready to sleep, their distrance from a lav is sufficient so as to not be bothered, and they are on the side from which you will deplane.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 10:32 pm
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The NW & DL websites have said the Menzie's lounge for quite a while and when I was in AMS last month, I asked about it at the KLM Crown Lounge and they know NOTHING about it, so it's business as usual at the KLM lounges until somebody reports otherwise. There's a thread about it somewhere. I think it's just an error.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 10:46 pm
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Originally Posted by NW.BTR.Than.The.Rest
That said, some other things are great. The AVOD system is nice, DL meals are a little better (I actually enjoyed the steak both over and back on the A330 from MSP-LHR a couple of weeks ago.), the comforter (duvet) they give you is nice and I put it on the seat as extra cushion. Finally, though I used to extol row 1, any seat, I have come to enjoy seats 3C and 4C, they are farther from the light from the galley when you get ready to sleep, their distrance from a lav is sufficient so as to not be bothered, and they are on the side from which you will deplane.
The lav is pretty far away from Row 1 as it is (since it's past the gallery and right near the flight deck door). Never had a problem sitting in these seats regarding the smell of the lav. Gallery light in 1A also isn't the problem, the problem (if it's on) is the monitor right in front of the seats. But a good pair of eye shades takes care of that easily.
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Old Aug 17, 2009 | 11:29 pm
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Whats the Menzie's lounge?
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