Malaysia Airlines Fuel Surcharge Ripoff
#16
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA (previous locations: DTW, TLV, EWR, BOS)
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You won't. Except for MH, I know of no other NW partners that collect this surcharge at the airport after the ticket has been issued.
#18
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PHF,ORF
Programs: AA Gold, MR Plat
Posts: 467
As long as we're on the topic...has anyone had luck snagging 2 business class seats with miles on the same airplane? I understand SQ often only releases one seat in C per plane for award redemption, so was just curious if MH has any similar policies?
#19
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Orange County, CA
Programs: AS-MVP, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Gold
Posts: 528
I managed to piece together 2 business class tickets on MH from Phuket to Kuala Lumpur with a stopover in KL for 3 days, then KUL to NRT. I connect to Northwest back to HNL. This trip is coming up in June. I booked it last summer and recall that the NW agent told me that there were lots of openings, they just need to check that MH will release them to NW.
#20
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: PHF,ORF
Programs: AA Gold, MR Plat
Posts: 467
ok, thanks for that NW-A332.
Just one more question. Those of you who have redeemed awards US-Asia with MH. Is your flight from home to the MH gateway typically included on NW, or are you on your own up to that point?
For instance, I would be needing to fly from ORF to either EWR or LAX to catch the MH flight. Would NW include that as part of my MH redemption, or would I have to buy a separate ticket to get me to EWR/LAX?
Thanks for the help!
Just one more question. Those of you who have redeemed awards US-Asia with MH. Is your flight from home to the MH gateway typically included on NW, or are you on your own up to that point?
For instance, I would be needing to fly from ORF to either EWR or LAX to catch the MH flight. Would NW include that as part of my MH redemption, or would I have to buy a separate ticket to get me to EWR/LAX?
Thanks for the help!
#21
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA (previous locations: DTW, TLV, EWR, BOS)
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ok, thanks for that NW-A332.
Just one more question. Those of you who have redeemed awards US-Asia with MH. Is your flight from home to the MH gateway typically included on NW, or are you on your own up to that point?
For instance, I would be needing to fly from ORF to either EWR or LAX to catch the MH flight. Would NW include that as part of my MH redemption, or would I have to buy a separate ticket to get me to EWR/LAX?
Thanks for the help!
Just one more question. Those of you who have redeemed awards US-Asia with MH. Is your flight from home to the MH gateway typically included on NW, or are you on your own up to that point?
For instance, I would be needing to fly from ORF to either EWR or LAX to catch the MH flight. Would NW include that as part of my MH redemption, or would I have to buy a separate ticket to get me to EWR/LAX?
Thanks for the help!
Anyway, their routing was PRG-AMS (KL or OK) then AMS-KUL (MH). So, I'd say that it is possible to book a combination of MH and non-MH flights on the same award ticket.
#22
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Orange County, CA
Programs: AS-MVP, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Gold
Posts: 528
ok, thanks for that NW-A332.
Just one more question. Those of you who have redeemed awards US-Asia with MH. Is your flight from home to the MH gateway typically included on NW, or are you on your own up to that point?
For instance, I would be needing to fly from ORF to either EWR or LAX to catch the MH flight. Would NW include that as part of my MH redemption, or would I have to buy a separate ticket to get me to EWR/LAX?
Thanks for the help!
Just one more question. Those of you who have redeemed awards US-Asia with MH. Is your flight from home to the MH gateway typically included on NW, or are you on your own up to that point?
For instance, I would be needing to fly from ORF to either EWR or LAX to catch the MH flight. Would NW include that as part of my MH redemption, or would I have to buy a separate ticket to get me to EWR/LAX?
Thanks for the help!
HNL-NRT-SIN on Northwest
HKT-KUL(stopover)-NRT on MH
NRT-HNL on Northwest and the connection time in NRT is about 1.5 hours.
there doesn't seem to be a distinction in who you fly on which legs. I think all that matter is the starting city and the ending city. As long as there is a reasonable connection, they should do it all in one ticket.
#23
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA (previous locations: DTW, TLV, EWR, BOS)
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Looks like MH fuel surcharges are going down. I wonder whether NW award redeemers (on MH) who are assesed surcharges will get charged less as well.
http://www.malaysiaairlinesblog.com/...fuel+surcharge
http://www.malaysiaairlinesblog.com/...fuel+surcharge
Last edited by bostonbali; Mar 10, 2009 at 7:37 pm
#24
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SEA - DL DM/2MM, *A Gold, SPG Lifetime Plat, some other car and hotel stuff
Posts: 5,649
Looks like MH fuel surcharges are going down. I wonder whether NW award redeemers (on MH) who are assesed surcharges will get charged less as well.
http://www.malaysiaairlinesblog.com/...fuel+surcharge
http://www.malaysiaairlinesblog.com/...fuel+surcharge
#25
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: IND
Programs: AAdvantage Executive Platinum, HHonors Diamond, National Executive
Posts: 1,297
Link works fine for me... here's what it says...
Fuel Surcharges….lower now!
February 2nd, 2009
By: Zaileen Eileena Hashim (Communications Division)
A popular question always targeted at me during dinner conversation with friends “Why are MAS fuel surcharges still so high?” After which I would explain airlines continue to pay higher because of hedging positions locked in when prices were still high. Fuel has been our biggest cost, only 30% is recovered from fuel surcharges.
Over the past few weeks I was delighted to learn that our airline has been slashing fuel surcharges on domestic and international flights by as much as 73%. The reduction and removals will help ease costs attached to travel especially during this gloomy economic outlook. And hopefully I don’t get that question shot at me again…
Here are some reductions and in some cases removals of fuel surcharge over the past few weeks:
1. Removed domestic fuel surcharge for travel in Malaysia effective, 14 January 2009.
(An enticing deal - to travel domestically on a five star airline with no fuel surcharge)
2. Effective 30 January, fuel surcharge was removed from our Singapore and Brunei flights.
3. There has been a worldwide reduction of up to 54% in fuel surcharge to/from across ASEAN.
4. By 1 February fuel surcharge on flights from China will be reduced up to USD100,
5. Flights from Australia and New Zealand reduced up to USD210
6. Flights from Middle East will see a drop of up to USD150.
7. Flights from Africa and North America will also see a reduction of up to USD160 and USD185
respectively.
I suppose what’s really important for customers is that the total sum of parts whether it’s the fares alone or fares in combination with the fuel surcharge should be competitive.
Off course there is a realization that travelers these days do not only and always make decisions based on price alone. This is where MH Value Fares allows us to be making a decision based on the occasion and circumstances of our travel. We can start making decisions based on our own travel needs.
If we want cheaper fares then more planning in advance is required as all inclusive MHlow fares offers up to 70% ticket discount. To enjoy these discounts one must book at least 21 days in advance online. Only available online these MH Low Fares are indicated in RED.
offers up to 50% ticket discount and requires 14 days advance purchase.
If you are travelling under short notice with an uncertain agenda, require more flexibility and will be carrying a lot of things with you then MHsmart offers 75% Enrich Miles and baggage allowance up to 25kg. Tickets can be bought 4 days before departure.
MHflex offers the most benefits and flexibility. Tickets for MHflex can be purchased anytime, bookings can be changed at no extra cost and customers enjoy 125% Enrich miles accrual.
Fuel Surcharges….lower now!
February 2nd, 2009
By: Zaileen Eileena Hashim (Communications Division)
A popular question always targeted at me during dinner conversation with friends “Why are MAS fuel surcharges still so high?” After which I would explain airlines continue to pay higher because of hedging positions locked in when prices were still high. Fuel has been our biggest cost, only 30% is recovered from fuel surcharges.
Over the past few weeks I was delighted to learn that our airline has been slashing fuel surcharges on domestic and international flights by as much as 73%. The reduction and removals will help ease costs attached to travel especially during this gloomy economic outlook. And hopefully I don’t get that question shot at me again…
Here are some reductions and in some cases removals of fuel surcharge over the past few weeks:
1. Removed domestic fuel surcharge for travel in Malaysia effective, 14 January 2009.
(An enticing deal - to travel domestically on a five star airline with no fuel surcharge)
2. Effective 30 January, fuel surcharge was removed from our Singapore and Brunei flights.
3. There has been a worldwide reduction of up to 54% in fuel surcharge to/from across ASEAN.
4. By 1 February fuel surcharge on flights from China will be reduced up to USD100,
5. Flights from Australia and New Zealand reduced up to USD210
6. Flights from Middle East will see a drop of up to USD150.
7. Flights from Africa and North America will also see a reduction of up to USD160 and USD185
respectively.
I suppose what’s really important for customers is that the total sum of parts whether it’s the fares alone or fares in combination with the fuel surcharge should be competitive.
Off course there is a realization that travelers these days do not only and always make decisions based on price alone. This is where MH Value Fares allows us to be making a decision based on the occasion and circumstances of our travel. We can start making decisions based on our own travel needs.
If we want cheaper fares then more planning in advance is required as all inclusive MHlow fares offers up to 70% ticket discount. To enjoy these discounts one must book at least 21 days in advance online. Only available online these MH Low Fares are indicated in RED.
offers up to 50% ticket discount and requires 14 days advance purchase.
If you are travelling under short notice with an uncertain agenda, require more flexibility and will be carrying a lot of things with you then MHsmart offers 75% Enrich Miles and baggage allowance up to 25kg. Tickets can be bought 4 days before departure.
MHflex offers the most benefits and flexibility. Tickets for MHflex can be purchased anytime, bookings can be changed at no extra cost and customers enjoy 125% Enrich miles accrual.
#26
Join Date: Feb 2009
Programs: NWPLAT, HILTONDIAMOND
Posts: 13
Surcharges haven't changed from a month ago for April flights LAX-KUL-BKK and HKT-KUL. Over $1000 for 4 of us. Won't be taking them to BKK due to this.
#27
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA (previous locations: DTW, TLV, EWR, BOS)
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#28
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tokyo
Programs: NW Diamond, LH SEN, PC Spire - RA, TG PlatHyatt Diamond
Posts: 585
MH fuel surcharge ex Japan will go down 1 April 2009, in line with other Japanese airlines.
#29
Join Date: Feb 2009
Programs: NWPLAT, HILTONDIAMOND
Posts: 13
So I may check again after Apr 1 and if the price is right and the seats are available I may go back on MH. And we haven't flown yet, scheduled for second week of Apr. Agents try to get me to pay the fee over the phone and I tell them I'll pay at the airport. We are currently only flying 1 short leg on MH for this trip.
#30
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SEA (previous locations: DTW, TLV, EWR, BOS)
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You are talking about NWA Award tickets on MH, correct?