Circle trip question
Jan 16, 2008, 7:23 pm
#1
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Circle trip question
I tried booking an award trip NYC-BCN-CAI-NYC, after calling the agent told me that since this is a "circle trip" I can't do it on miles. I thought I was allowed a free stopover on the way...
Doing a search on circle trip yielded no good results...
Doing a search on circle trip yielded no good results...
Jan 16, 2008, 7:35 pm
#2
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>>>>>>>I tried booking an award trip NYC-BCN-CAI-NYC, after calling the agent told me that since this is a "circle trip" I can't do it on miles. I thought I was allowed a free stopover on the way...
It's probably that if you are looking at a round-trip from NYC to CAI that BCN is not a "connecting city" listed in the "routing"--in fact it is quite out of the way considering NWA hubs and acceptable ways of getting a round-trip to Cairo.
"Circle trip" means three segments. Not just two segments with a stop along the way. And award trips are good only for a round-trip with a stop, not three trips.
If you absolutely want to go to Barcelona, then it will be considered the first outbound destination, not a stop (it is without-a-doubt not in the acceptable "routings" to Cairo because you would have to double-back to a NWA hub like PAR or MXP in order to continue the trip on to Cairo). What you can TRY to do is book an "open-jaw" from NYC to BCN, and the a CAI-NYC return, and try to find a reasonably cheap way to get from BCN to CAI on a separate ticket.
It's probably that if you are looking at a round-trip from NYC to CAI that BCN is not a "connecting city" listed in the "routing"--in fact it is quite out of the way considering NWA hubs and acceptable ways of getting a round-trip to Cairo.
"Circle trip" means three segments. Not just two segments with a stop along the way. And award trips are good only for a round-trip with a stop, not three trips.
If you absolutely want to go to Barcelona, then it will be considered the first outbound destination, not a stop (it is without-a-doubt not in the acceptable "routings" to Cairo because you would have to double-back to a NWA hub like PAR or MXP in order to continue the trip on to Cairo). What you can TRY to do is book an "open-jaw" from NYC to BCN, and the a CAI-NYC return, and try to find a reasonably cheap way to get from BCN to CAI on a separate ticket.
Jan 16, 2008, 7:41 pm
#3
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Have you tried booking the award through nwa.com? I see lots of itins fitting your routing.
Nevermind, I see the routing, but once you try to book it says call the help desk.
Nevermind, I see the routing, but once you try to book it says call the help desk.
Jan 16, 2008, 8:42 pm
#4
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>>>>>>>I tried booking an award trip NYC-BCN-CAI-NYC, after calling the agent told me that since this is a "circle trip" I can't do it on miles. I thought I was allowed a free stopover on the way...
It's probably that if you are looking at a round-trip from NYC to CAI that BCN is not a "connecting city" listed in the "routing"--in fact it is quite out of the way considering NWA hubs and acceptable ways of getting a round-trip to Cairo.
"Circle trip" means three segments. Not just two segments with a stop along the way. And award trips are good only for a round-trip with a stop, not three trips.
If you absolutely want to go to Barcelona, then it will be considered the first outbound destination, not a stop (it is without-a-doubt not in the acceptable "routings" to Cairo because you would have to double-back to a NWA hub like PAR or MXP in order to continue the trip on to Cairo). What you can TRY to do is book an "open-jaw" from NYC to BCN, and the a CAI-NYC return, and try to find a reasonably cheap way to get from BCN to CAI on a separate ticket.
It's probably that if you are looking at a round-trip from NYC to CAI that BCN is not a "connecting city" listed in the "routing"--in fact it is quite out of the way considering NWA hubs and acceptable ways of getting a round-trip to Cairo.
"Circle trip" means three segments. Not just two segments with a stop along the way. And award trips are good only for a round-trip with a stop, not three trips.
If you absolutely want to go to Barcelona, then it will be considered the first outbound destination, not a stop (it is without-a-doubt not in the acceptable "routings" to Cairo because you would have to double-back to a NWA hub like PAR or MXP in order to continue the trip on to Cairo). What you can TRY to do is book an "open-jaw" from NYC to BCN, and the a CAI-NYC return, and try to find a reasonably cheap way to get from BCN to CAI on a separate ticket.
Jan 16, 2008, 9:56 pm
#5
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Why not book NYC-AMS-stopover(AMS-BCN-AMS cheapo airline)-CAI-AMS-NYC?
Jan 17, 2008, 7:51 am
#7
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Circle trip awards are only allowed within the Continental U.S. and between the Continental U.S. and Alaska/Canada.
Free stopovers on awards are only permitted in NorthWest or partner hubs.
Free stopovers on awards are only permitted in NorthWest or partner hubs.
Jan 17, 2008, 9:53 am
#8
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Yes, but CDG is a partner hub, yet you can only have a stopover there if you fly AF. It appears that you cannot have a stopover at CDG if you fly NW/KL. While that makes sense (it wouldn't really be a stopover on NW), it's still not obvious. Live & learn.
Jan 17, 2008, 11:18 am
#9
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UX (Air Europa) has a hub at BCN, so you might be able to take advantage of that to get your free stopover.
Jan 17, 2008, 11:35 am
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