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SchmutzigMSP Dec 3, 2007 9:01 am


Originally Posted by lambrettaStarr (Post 8828307)
I wonder if the workforce would rather have new uniforms or bonus check? :p

I thought, according to your first post, that you would rather spend the uniform money on improving the first class product, not on bonus checks...

In any case, new uniforms are a long-term capital investment that improve image and employee morale. Bonus checks would be a short-term payment that wouldn't last very long. When it's gone, you'd be right back where you are today.

baccarat_king Dec 3, 2007 9:58 am


Originally Posted by davetravels (Post 8828373)
I know DL hired a famous designer - forget who - but the employees love them!


It was revealed that the new Delta uniforms cost $1,000 per employee, or $20 million in total. "Richard Tyler, a designer based in Los Angeles, created the uniforms and they look pretty snazzy; glamorous but functional, especially compared to the drab grey coats of Delta last generation uniforms. We're not sure if they can go toe to toe with Christian Lacroix's new Air France uniforms, but to afford him, Delta would have likely had to reenter bankruptcy."

ed1 Dec 3, 2007 10:35 am


Originally Posted by socrates (Post 8827936)
Personally I think NW's F is much much better than DL's (yes I've recently flown DL F-snacks are a joke), the current uniform standards are very old - I'm sure the employees will appreciate it and it'll give the public a better image of the company (it's a touch point)

I flew ATL-TPA in 1E on a 763, service was great, predeparture drink order taken as I was sitting down, had no problem getting two refills as soon as I finished the one I was drinking. Bottle of water and headphones were waiting in bulkhead pocket. I much prefer NW's snack basket to DL's snack. I've never eaten a meal in DL F, but I've had a lot of really good meals in F on NW in my travels this Sep.

I think new uniforms are a good idea.

motytrah Dec 3, 2007 11:05 am

If you poke around the Union's website you'll find they have been asking for new uniforms since late 2006. Although I don't think they were specifically looking for a new design, just new clothing for frontline staff.

DanTravels Dec 3, 2007 12:02 pm


Originally Posted by sxf24 (Post 8828707)
Since employees receive new uniform pieces on a regular basis, the only additional cost of the rolling out new uniforms is the design and pre-production tests.

This is a very good point, and one I hadn't considered. If things are getting replaced on a rolling basis anyway, new stuff can be "phased in" as long as you're not going to a bright orange floral print or something. :D


Originally Posted by baccarat_king (Post 8829260)

It was revealed that the new Delta uniforms cost $1,000 per employee, or $20 million in total.

That's counting multiples of each piece and so on of course, right?

rasmcasm Dec 3, 2007 1:07 pm

strange coincidence, last evening at MSP, passing in the other direction on a moving walkway I thought I saw what looked like a sharp new and different uniform on a flight attendant. I quickly assumed that my eyes were deceived and it was an employee for another carrier. and maybe it was.

Klm is Dead - Long Live KLM Dec 3, 2007 2:23 pm

If I am not mistaken, pictures of the new NW uniform have already been leaked!

http://members.cox.net/scribeokc/pos...iesAreDone.jpg

SchmutzigMSP Dec 3, 2007 2:25 pm

That's funny, but also inappropriate for this forum.

Too much bad blood around here...

Klm is Dead - Long Live KLM Dec 3, 2007 2:30 pm

If you think the new NW uniforms are bad, take a look at KLM's recent ones:

http://www.miscuse.dk/womeninuniform/airline/klm7.jpg

Stripe Dec 3, 2007 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by SchmutzigMSP (Post 8828900)
In any case, new uniforms are a long-term capital investment that improve image and employee morale.

Indeed. The current uniforms are dated and make the employees generally look unkempt. Done right, new uniforms make one look and feel more professional and can't help but improve service.

As to spending the money on improving the FC product, NW obviously is already doing that. Meals are improving on NW and going in the opposite direction on CO. I've been getting consistent pre-departure drinks on NW. If NW updated their seat covers and did a hot towel service I think they'd have CO beat. And DL's F meal service is a joke, except perhaps for long hauls, which I haven't tried.

All in all NW seems like they're trying to improve while CO flyers are getting squeezed by the bean counters in IAH.

lambrettaStarr Dec 3, 2007 3:04 pm


Originally Posted by Stripe (Post 8831116)
Indeed. The current uniforms are dated and make the employees generally look unkempt. Done right, new uniforms make one look and feel more professional and can't help but improve service.

As to spending the money on improving the FC product, NW obviously is already doing that. Meals are improving on NW and going in the opposite direction on CO. I've been getting consistent pre-departure drinks on NW. If NW updated their seat covers and did a hot towel service I think they'd have CO beat. And DL's F meal service is a joke, except perhaps for long hauls, which I haven't tried.

All in all NW seems like they're trying to improve while CO flyers are getting squeezed by the bean counters in IAH.

But they have pillows!!! :)

SchmutzigMSP Dec 3, 2007 3:06 pm


Originally Posted by lambrettaStarr (Post 8831261)
But they have pillows!!! :)

Don't you mean portable germ collectors and dispensers?

I carry my own... ;)

RichMSN Dec 3, 2007 3:27 pm


Originally Posted by dmitzel (Post 8828667)
No way. :td: Why give the FA's a reason NOT to serve pre-departure drinks?! :confused: Some of us want something besides lukewarm bottled water. :rolleyes:

Sorry about the strong reaction, but it (pre-departure service) is bad/inconsistant enough already. We don't need to encourage further deterioration in FC service.

Another TTU today based on a flight last night. 4 FAs in the front gabbing, catered, no drink made available.

But they poured coffee for the pilots.

For us, when asked, it was "after we get airborne." Then, back to the gabbing. I got the coffee mid-air.

May as well give them uniforms that match/blend in with the background so we can't see them at all.

azj Dec 3, 2007 3:42 pm

Regarding a new uniform sighting... you very well could have seen a Compass FA. Their uniforms are charcoal grey with a blue shirt and scarf/tie. I understand the new NWA uniform will also be charcoal grey but with more color accent pieces. It's rumoured that the Mesaba FAs will also get new unis.


AZJ

RichMSN Dec 3, 2007 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by Klm is Dead - Long Live KLM (Post 8830969)
If I am not mistaken, pictures of the new NW uniform have already been leaked!

http://members.cox.net/scribeokc/pos...iesAreDone.jpg

Ding! Coffee's Done!

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