Turn off electronics light
Jun 7, 2007 | 4:31 am
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Turn off electronics light
After a few flights on US lately, I noticed how useful the "turn off electronics" light is. They use that instead of the obsolete "no smoking" light. I always thought it was silly to see the "no smoking" lights on new planes (such as the A330's), since smoking has been banned on flights long before those planes were rolled out. (Some of the old planes still have ashtrays.) Why not replace that piece of plastic and make use of that light? The "turn off electronics" light works great!
Jun 7, 2007 | 5:44 am
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Do you really need the light to remind you to turn off electronics?
Jun 7, 2007 | 5:49 am
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Huh?
Do you really need the light to remind you that smoking is not allowed?
The point is, portable electronics are not allowed below 10,000 ft. Without personal altimeters, the only way to know when to turn electronics on/off is by the announcement. It is a somewhat similar function to the "fasten seatbelt" light (only applied slightly differently).
Do you really need the light to remind you that smoking is not allowed?The point is, portable electronics are not allowed below 10,000 ft. Without personal altimeters, the only way to know when to turn electronics on/off is by the announcement. It is a somewhat similar function to the "fasten seatbelt" light (only applied slightly differently).
Jun 7, 2007 | 5:53 am
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The point is, portable electronics are not allowed below 10,000 ft. Without personal altimeters, the only way to know when to turn electronics on/off is by the announcement. It is a somewhat similar function to the "fasten seatbelt" light (only applied slightly differently).
It seems like you're suggesting they retrofit the aircraft with these lights, to which I'd say it's not really necessary. Maybe the new CRJ-900s/EMB-175s will have such lights, but to spend the money to replace the No Smoking signs with No Electronics signs would be a bit wasteful, IMO. All it takes is a friendly tap on your shoulder from a FA to have you turn off your devices...and it's included in the pre-arrival speech, anyway.
Jun 7, 2007 | 8:15 am
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Northwest flight attendants require the electronics to be turned off on domestic flights earlier than any other carrier, well before 10,000 feet. They also return the coats too darned early, as well.
Jun 7, 2007 | 8:44 am
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You would have thought they would have replaced the "No smoking lights" on more recently built aircraft.
Regardless, a light and or announcement are usually not enough for me to notice since I may be watching a movie on my PDA and have earphones in.
A FA taping me on the shoulder does work.
You would have thought they would have replaced the "No smoking lights" on more recently built aircraft.
Regardless, a light and or announcement are usually not enough for me to notice since I may be watching a movie on my PDA and have earphones in.
A FA taping me on the shoulder does work.
Jun 7, 2007 | 9:05 am
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I agree that it wouldn't make sense to spend money retrofitting old planes for this, and think FA announcements are generally sufficient. But it does seem kind of odd that they're still getting new planes with the "no smoking" lights. At this point, the only people who still think they can smoke on planes are those who feel entitled to willfully disregard the rules. Signs don't seem to make any difference with those folks....
Jun 7, 2007 | 10:18 am
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IIR, it's no so much the altitude, it's whether or not the cockpit is sterile. Usually this happens around 10,000ft. There is a green light in the galley that gets turned on when the cockpit is no longer sterile. Granted it's small on the DC-9's but very visible on the A319/20
Jun 7, 2007 | 10:29 am
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The lighted sign in question will indeed be found on the 175s and CRJ900s.
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Jun 7, 2007 | 10:38 am
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I think that the no electronics light would be helpful as I often can't hear the announcements because of my headphones and I too agree that NW makes you turn off electronics far sooner than other airlines.
Jun 7, 2007 | 12:50 pm
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I had a CO fa get a little testy when I had my device on (watching movie on dvd player) and I didn't here the announcement coming back from lgw into iah. I think she thought I had ignored the announcement...I never heard it!
Jun 9, 2007 | 7:04 pm
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What About in FC?
Last week SFO > MSP in FC
Guy next to is the last to board (not elite...either Y-up or full-fare), turns on his iPod, sticks his headphones on, and keeps them on -- music audible from a few feet away -- all through taxi and takeoff. AND his seat was reclined a bit.
Not even a dirty look from the FAs.
He takes off the headphones as breakfast is served (cheesy eggs -- cereal is all gone by Row 2), we chit chat and I joke that he got away with these scandalous transgressions. He waves his hand and says "they don't care in First."
really?
Guy next to is the last to board (not elite...either Y-up or full-fare), turns on his iPod, sticks his headphones on, and keeps them on -- music audible from a few feet away -- all through taxi and takeoff. AND his seat was reclined a bit.
Not even a dirty look from the FAs.
He takes off the headphones as breakfast is served (cheesy eggs -- cereal is all gone by Row 2), we chit chat and I joke that he got away with these scandalous transgressions. He waves his hand and says "they don't care in First."
really?
Jun 9, 2007 | 9:06 pm
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Last week SFO > MSP in FC
Guy next to is the last to board (not elite...either Y-up or full-fare), turns on his iPod, sticks his headphones on, and keeps them on -- music audible from a few feet away -- all through taxi and takeoff. AND his seat was reclined a bit.
Not even a dirty look from the FAs.
He takes off the headphones as breakfast is served (cheesy eggs -- cereal is all gone by Row 2), we chit chat and I joke that he got away with these scandalous transgressions. He waves his hand and says "they don't care in First."
really?
Guy next to is the last to board (not elite...either Y-up or full-fare), turns on his iPod, sticks his headphones on, and keeps them on -- music audible from a few feet away -- all through taxi and takeoff. AND his seat was reclined a bit.
Not even a dirty look from the FAs.
He takes off the headphones as breakfast is served (cheesy eggs -- cereal is all gone by Row 2), we chit chat and I joke that he got away with these scandalous transgressions. He waves his hand and says "they don't care in First."
really?
The thing I never know is when is it acceptable to recline the seat? They never make an announcement that it is now safe to recline the seat, so I recline within 5 minutes of take off.
Jun 10, 2007 | 1:00 pm
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People ignore the seatbelt sign that has been in aircraft for decades. What makes you think they'd pay attention to a little light with a pair of headphones under the universal "No" circle or something like that?