Typhoon Interference
Aug 24, 2005 | 4:47 pm
#16
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I'm in a NRT airport hotel now (almost 8 am) after having arrived here in NRT yesterday evening. The typhoon is the top story on all the news channels.
According to the news right now, the typhoon is due to reach landfall around or to the east of Nagoya (which itself is east of Osaka) this afternoon, and then curve around to the right to hit Tokyo. As this is a slow moving typhoon, the news says that we can expect to have about 15 hours of high wind and rain (from this afternoon to tomorrow morning). The news further reports that several domestic flights have already been cancelled, and that more cancellations and delays can be expected (depending on the path the typhoon takes).
According to the news right now, the typhoon is due to reach landfall around or to the east of Nagoya (which itself is east of Osaka) this afternoon, and then curve around to the right to hit Tokyo. As this is a slow moving typhoon, the news says that we can expect to have about 15 hours of high wind and rain (from this afternoon to tomorrow morning). The news further reports that several domestic flights have already been cancelled, and that more cancellations and delays can be expected (depending on the path the typhoon takes).
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Aug 24, 2005 | 8:45 pm
#17
Join Date: May 2005
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Originally Posted by AlanLivingston
Does anyone have any experience with how NW would handle this? I called NW and they said if a typhoon would affect any portion of the flight, they would probably cancel the entire flight. It would make more sense to me to cancel the stop at KIX and fly TPE-DTW direct. I'd think they'd need the aircraft in TPE for the next flight.
Of course, I don't know how they accomodate those KIX-DTW passengers and I'm probably not thinking of a lot of other details as well.
Has anyone had this happen on this flight or a similar situation that can comment?
Of course, I don't know how they accomodate those KIX-DTW passengers and I'm probably not thinking of a lot of other details as well.
Has anyone had this happen on this flight or a similar situation that can comment?
Also, about a month ago, there was a serious typhoon in TPE and NW cancelled flight NW 70 (I think the whole airport was closed). Not sure what happened to the KIX-DTW portion.
Aug 24, 2005 | 10:16 pm
#18
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The way things are looking at the moment operations at NRT should be fairly normal until maybe 9pm. After that the higher winds should start and are expected to last well into tomorrow morning with gusts up to 70-85 kts. This could be a problem for the early morning arrivals from Europe. At the moment we are just experiencing heavy rain with fairly moderate winds at 8kts.
KIX should be well clear of the typhoon and in fact they are now reporting 20kt winds, which is probably about as bad as it will get. Nagoya is reporting similar winds, that is expected to deterioriate fairly quickly.
I guess for flights from the US to KIX, the question is going to be how to route around the weather system in such a away as to avoid the bad turbulence. I left NRT a day after a typhoon last year on a LH 747 to FRA. About one hour after departure we crossed the tail-end of the typhoon and it really was no fun, not even for this seasoned flyer.....
KIX should be well clear of the typhoon and in fact they are now reporting 20kt winds, which is probably about as bad as it will get. Nagoya is reporting similar winds, that is expected to deterioriate fairly quickly.
I guess for flights from the US to KIX, the question is going to be how to route around the weather system in such a away as to avoid the bad turbulence. I left NRT a day after a typhoon last year on a LH 747 to FRA. About one hour after departure we crossed the tail-end of the typhoon and it really was no fun, not even for this seasoned flyer.....
Aug 25, 2005 | 1:50 am
#19
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Originally Posted by Snoopy
I guess for flights from the US to KIX, the question is going to be how to route around the weather system in such a away as to avoid the bad turbulence. I left NRT a day after a typhoon last year on a LH 747 to FRA. About one hour after departure we crossed the tail-end of the typhoon and it really was no fun, not even for this seasoned flyer.....
My feeling is that airlines will usually try to fly, if at all possible, in these situations. A few years ago on a west coast-NRT flight as a typhoon was hitting Japan, they didn't cancel the flight, but they did lighten the load by bumping (involuntarily) a sizeable number of passengers.
Aug 25, 2005 | 10:10 am
#20
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Originally Posted by radio-flyer
In July I flew NW from MSP-NRT as typhoon was approaching Tokyo. My connecting flight to Singapore left early, so I missed my connection. NW booked me on Singapore Airlines the following morning and paid for deluxe hotel and dinner. Not too bad, since I was on an award ticket. Good luck!! 
Aug 26, 2005 | 9:02 am
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We flew. A tiny bit of turbulence coming into KIX. And we took the northern route from KIX toi DTW to avoid turbulence from the storm, according to the pilot. This made us a little late into DTW.
What I realized during the flight is why they don't overfly KIX in these situations. The long-haul crew arrives at KIX and flies KIX-DTW. I remember on the outbound flight we changed crew from KIX->TPE.
TheZipper: Thanks for the link. I had been using the US Navy's site and it doesn't seem to work out of the US. If I VPN'd into my office network, I'd get it but not from the hotel. Anyway, thanks!
What I realized during the flight is why they don't overfly KIX in these situations. The long-haul crew arrives at KIX and flies KIX-DTW. I remember on the outbound flight we changed crew from KIX->TPE.
TheZipper: Thanks for the link. I had been using the US Navy's site and it doesn't seem to work out of the US. If I VPN'd into my office network, I'd get it but not from the hotel. Anyway, thanks!