Major changes in Delta SkyMiles Program
#1
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Major changes in Delta SkyMiles Program
If you haven't already, take a look at the Delta forum where there are numerous discussions going on about the recently announced changes to the SkyMiles program. I won't link the discussions directly in this post.
Summary:
* 100% EQM for LUT fares
* 75k Plat threshold
* NW/CO standard EUA windows
I wonder if we'll see 100% EQM for Delta LUTs again on NW? That would be, what, the 3rd flip flop on this in 6 months?
I'm also wondering whether the alignment of the CO/NW/DL elite tiers means that we'll be seeing EUAs on DL soon, and DL elites EUAing on our flights.
Very interesting...
Summary:
* 100% EQM for LUT fares
* 75k Plat threshold
* NW/CO standard EUA windows
I wonder if we'll see 100% EQM for Delta LUTs again on NW? That would be, what, the 3rd flip flop on this in 6 months?

I'm also wondering whether the alignment of the CO/NW/DL elite tiers means that we'll be seeing EUAs on DL soon, and DL elites EUAing on our flights.
Very interesting...
#2


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Originally Posted by Cacophony
* 75k Plat threshold
#3


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Originally Posted by Cacophony
* 75k Plat threshold
#4
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Originally Posted by Cacophony
If you haven't already, take a look at the Delta forum where there are numerous discussions going on about the recently announced changes to the SkyMiles program. I won't link the discussions directly in this post.
Summary:
* 100% EQM for LUT fares
* 75k Plat threshold
* NW/CO standard EUA windows
I wonder if we'll see 100% EQM for Delta LUTs again on NW? That would be, what, the 3rd flip flop on this in 6 months?
I'm also wondering whether the alignment of the CO/NW/DL elite tiers means that we'll be seeing EUAs on DL soon, and DL elites EUAing on our flights.
Very interesting...
Summary:
* 100% EQM for LUT fares
* 75k Plat threshold
* NW/CO standard EUA windows
I wonder if we'll see 100% EQM for Delta LUTs again on NW? That would be, what, the 3rd flip flop on this in 6 months?

I'm also wondering whether the alignment of the CO/NW/DL elite tiers means that we'll be seeing EUAs on DL soon, and DL elites EUAing on our flights.
Very interesting...
#5




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L T K on NW also earn 100% MQM on DL
As I read the changes DL make for next year, it is very interesting that LTK on NW will earn 100% MQM on DL or LUT DL flights operated by NW will earn 100% MQM on DL. However, LUT DL flights operated by CO or QISWLT flights on CO will only 50% MQM on DL.
So I hope NW will change its EQM policy on DL since DL has made such a friendly change for deeply discounted flights operated by NW. Fingers crossed!
Good move, DL! Come on, NW!
So I hope NW will change its EQM policy on DL since DL has made such a friendly change for deeply discounted flights operated by NW. Fingers crossed!
Good move, DL! Come on, NW!
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Originally Posted by jxb
Indeed, very interesting. I just read about the changes myself. This arguably makes Delta Platinum status better than NW Platinum. For example, Delta MPs get complimentary use of lounges. That's a ~$300 benefit in itself.
With these changes DL might be worth taking another look at.
Steve
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I guess that means the 50% EQM experiment failed miserably. I suspect that once DL saw how many elites they lost, they decided to switch back. Now let's see NW get back to 100% on DL flights and see if CO will remain the odd man out with the 50% EQMs.
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Originally Posted by sllevin
And don't DL folks get some form of international upgrade certificates?
PMUs and complimentary CRC access will probably be taken away in 2006 as DL moves to further align its FF program with that of NW and CO. I can't imagine CO/NW adding these benefits for their top tier elites.
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I just called the NWA Gold Elite line and they indicated Delta LUT fares would earn 1 NWA EQM for each mile flown, but not retroactively. Delta flights already booked but flown from 12/15 on would receive the new credit structure. Any confirmations? This is great news!
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Originally Posted by Mileage Lover
I just called the NWA Gold Elite line and they indicated Delta LUT fares would earn 1 NWA EQM for each mile flown, but not retroactively. Delta flights already booked but flown from 12/15 on would receive the new credit structure. Any confirmations? This is great news!


tom
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Amazing... even DL silvers get companion upgrades on DL now!
I for one would NOT like to see a recipicated benefit of elite upgrades on DL. Elites are, IMHO, dime a dozen on DL and I can stand to not be upgraded on DL flights where I wouldn't get upgraded even if it were a perk for WP members.
aloha
I for one would NOT like to see a recipicated benefit of elite upgrades on DL. Elites are, IMHO, dime a dozen on DL and I can stand to not be upgraded on DL flights where I wouldn't get upgraded even if it were a perk for WP members.
aloha
Last edited by slippahs; Dec 15, 2004 at 9:53 pm
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Originally Posted by slippahs
Amazing... even DL silvers get companion upgrades on DL now!
I for one would NOT like to see a recipicated benefit of elite upgrades on DL. Elites are, IMHO, dime a dozen on DL and can stand to not be upgraded on DL flights where I wouldn't get upgraded even if it were a perk for WP members.
aloha
I for one would NOT like to see a recipicated benefit of elite upgrades on DL. Elites are, IMHO, dime a dozen on DL and can stand to not be upgraded on DL flights where I wouldn't get upgraded even if it were a perk for WP members.
aloha
I will also mention that SE's on US air get day of companion upgrades. Even with them reducing the size of the First Class cabins (some planes down to 2 1/2 to 3 rows) I have been able to get a companion U/G on the few flights I have flown them on. This seems to be an act of a dying airline that doesn't have enough elites to fill first so they expand the pool.
Last edited by wldtrvlr; Dec 15, 2004 at 9:50 pm
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Way to go DL! It seems that some one at the top is listening. Not say that I did not feel "enhanced" after our 2005 changes, again way to go DL. ^
RE. the SE companion UG, I honestly think that it will be a non-issue since they now are doing the 5-3-1 day windows. Its like offering international Standard WBC awards. They are kind of like baby pigeons. Everyone knows the exist, but has any one actually ever seen one?
I do like the idea of the complimentary CRC access and most of all 6 Platinum Medallion Upgrade certificates that are each valid for a one-way upgrade on international and domestic segments, confirmable at time of ticketing based on availability.
RE. the SE companion UG, I honestly think that it will be a non-issue since they now are doing the 5-3-1 day windows. Its like offering international Standard WBC awards. They are kind of like baby pigeons. Everyone knows the exist, but has any one actually ever seen one?
I do like the idea of the complimentary CRC access and most of all 6 Platinum Medallion Upgrade certificates that are each valid for a one-way upgrade on international and domestic segments, confirmable at time of ticketing based on availability.
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Interesting .... now maybe this will get NW to start giving 100% EQM on all CO and DL flights?
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Originally Posted by yevlesh2
Interesting .... now maybe this will get NW to start giving 100% EQM on all CO and DL flights?
C'mon, CO... give in to the peer pressure.

