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Old Jan 3, 2019, 11:33 pm
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Exec Elite - Booking direct or via 3rd Party

Hi, I have Exec Elite status courtesy of my CC and are looking at booking a week's rental in April. The rental is one way and i also need CDW/SLI insurance being from Australia (which bumps up the cost)

However when comparing apples with apples, the National website quoted costs are more than double (>$1k extra) than what i get quoted for the same booking/vehicle class by using one of the third party websites (autoslash/priceline, rentalcars, holidayautos).

What gives? and would i lose out on anything by booking through one of these third parties?

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Old Jan 4, 2019, 10:02 am
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National's one-way retail rates unfortunately are often uncompetitive. Are the 3rd party websites showing better rates with National, or actually with some other rental company? National offers a better customer experience, but with such a large price difference, it's good to be flexible.
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Old Jan 4, 2019, 6:42 pm
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National's one-way retail rates unfortunately are often uncompetitive. Are the 3rd party websites showing better rates with National, or actually with some other rental company? National offers a better customer experience, but with such a large price difference, it's good to be flexible.
Thanks for the reply. Yep this is comparing the same car class with National, same insurance, same dates etc.

Full size, 6 Apr pickup MCO, 13 Apr drop off DCA. Incl CDW&SLI
National (via Priceline) = $298
National Website = $1837 (base cost $1267)

Looks like Priceline might not be including the one way fee but still that is a massive difference !

i assume that if I book through Priceline that I can still use the emerald aisle if I book a full size?

Thanks

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Old Jan 4, 2019, 10:31 pm
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Thanks for the reply. Yep this is comparing the same car class with National, same insurance, same dates etc.

Full size, 6 Apr pickup MCO, 13 Apr drop off DCA. Incl CDW&SLI
National (via Priceline) = $298
National Website = $1837 (base cost $1267)

Looks like Priceline might not be including the one way fee but still that is a massive difference !

i assume that if I book through Priceline that I can still use the emerald aisle if I book a full size?

Thanks
They may give you grief about using the aisle if it’s a prepaid rental but that varies by location. Your Emerald Club number is tied to your drivers license number. If you’ve never rented from National before, (I’m not sure because you said you got status through a CC) you may need to go to the counter with your license anyway. Book the Priceline reservation, then pull it up on National’s website with the confirmation number and your last name to verify the price and that it actually does include insurance. Usually the US version of Priceline has all the one-ways fees, etc included in the total price, but that may not be true for all of the international versions of Priceline’s website. The insurance Priceline is offering may be third-party and not directly through National. Also FYI, you only need to book a mid-size to use the Emerald Aisle, if that’s cheaper.
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Old Jan 5, 2019, 10:34 am
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Also, you're going with the flow for the seasonal FL driveout. If you search other threads, there are ways to get the $10/day return anywhere outside of FL deal and the insurance you'll need as a foreigner. Caveat is that National's parent company increasingly does not offer these specials through National itself, but only through its Alamo and Enterprise affiliates. You can get coupons off with Alamo, and National Emerald Club credits with Enterprise, but not the seamless customer experience that National offers.
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Old Jan 5, 2019, 3:57 pm
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Also, you're going with the flow for the seasonal FL driveout. If you search other threads, there are ways to get the $10/day return anywhere outside of FL deal and the insurance you'll need as a foreigner. Caveat is that National's parent company increasingly does not offer these specials through National itself, but only through its Alamo and Enterprise affiliates. You can get coupons off with Alamo, and National Emerald Club credits with Enterprise, but not the seamless customer experience that National offers.
Certainly seems like it. Last year (2018) National offered discount price for Florida drive-in, however for this year's drive-out, Alamo/Enterprise has published the official deal page but National hasn't. I have a feeling that they don't want people taking advantage of the aisle service and $10/day discount at the same time. Probably trying to control which cars are going out and which cars are staying.
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Old Jan 5, 2019, 4:05 pm
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Thanks for the reply. Yep this is comparing the same car class with National, same insurance, same dates etc.

Full size, 6 Apr pickup MCO, 13 Apr drop off DCA. Incl CDW&SLI
National (via Priceline) = $298
National Website = $1837 (base cost $1267)

Looks like Priceline might not be including the one way fee but still that is a massive difference !

i assume that if I book through Priceline that I can still use the emerald aisle if I book a full size?

Thanks
I'd suggest wait until at least February to book the car. The seasonal Florida drive-out discount usually starts on 4/1 and runs through mid-May. Right now Hertz and Avis hasn't posted this year's discount yet, so their prices are very high now. But once they set the discount rules (start/end dates, maximum days, etc.), which is usually in February, you'll likely have way more options.

Like other posters said, National's participation in the FL drive-out is a hit or miss, but Hertz is usually there every year. If you have EE, it's easy to match to Hertz PC and they'll also allow you to choose any car from the aisle. That's what I did last year for the Arizona drive-in, when National didn't join the discount.
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Old Jan 5, 2019, 4:51 pm
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Certainly seems like it. Last year (2018) National offered discount price for Florida drive-in, however for this year's drive-out, Alamo/Enterprise has published the official deal page but National hasn't
i didn’t think that the drive out deals were out yet? Definitely I’ll be looking into those

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Also, you're going with the flow for the seasonal FL driveout. If you search other threads, there are ways to get the $10/day return anywhere outside of FL deal and the insurance you'll need as a foreigner.
i will have another read through those threads..thanks
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Old Jan 5, 2019, 4:53 pm
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. If you have EE, it's easy to match to Hertz PC and they'll also allow you to choose any car from the aisle. That's what I did last year for the Arizona drive-in, when National didn't join the discount.
I’ve already been status matched to PC by Hertz which was a pretty easy process so have that backup as well
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Old Jan 5, 2019, 4:55 pm
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i didn’t think that the drive out deals were out yet? Definitely I’ll be looking into those



i will have another read through those threads..thanks
Yes Alamo's offer page is already online, though the price's a lot higher than usual. Checked the other day it's $17/day before taxes and fees. Don't know if they're going to lower it once other companies join as well.
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Old Jan 5, 2019, 5:49 pm
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Tried Alamo website.

The drive out discount is only applied if I select “resident of USA”. The T&Cs make no mention of this (note this is the base rental rate before adding any insurance)
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Old Jan 6, 2019, 10:10 am
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Foreigners have definitely used the driveout deals, and found a way to get the insurance they need, at most for a minimal extra cost. Even if they had to buy the full daily insurance package, it was still much cheaper than the foreign regular one-way rates with a separate, hefty, taxable, drop charge.

Please search the threads from previous years for specifics. Some people might have called customer service, for instance.
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Old Jan 6, 2019, 8:11 pm
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Foreigners have definitely used the driveout deals, and found a way to get the insurance they need, at most for a minimal extra cost. Even if they had to buy the full daily insurance package, it was still much cheaper than the foreign regular one-way rates with a separate, hefty, taxable, drop charge.

Please search the threads from previous years for specifics. Some people might have called customer service, for instance.
Thanks, i contacted Alamo direct and they confirmed OK to book as US resident to access the lower base rate. I can then add CDW/SLI later in the process.

Interestingly the quote via Priceline is still lower (including insurance), although Priceline says their quote includes all charges, in the fine print it states "the care hire company may charge a one way fee". The only way to find out is to actually book and wait a response from Priceline then cancel later.

Do these drive out deals normally extend to third party booking sites or just via the car rental companies themselves?
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Old Jan 7, 2019, 10:17 am
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It depends. They will show up on American versions of Orbitz, Priceline, Hotwire, etc. European sites, or sites selling to European residents, are by European law required to show a separate one-way fee, in the name of "transparency." In the US, we care about the total price, not its subjective components.
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Old Jan 7, 2019, 5:23 pm
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Originally Posted by bergsey
Thanks, i contacted Alamo direct and they confirmed OK to book as US resident to access the lower base rate. I can then add CDW/SLI later in the process.

Interestingly the quote via Priceline is still lower (including insurance), although Priceline says their quote includes all charges, in the fine print it states "the care hire company may charge a one way fee". The only way to find out is to actually book and wait a response from Priceline then cancel later.

Do these drive out deals normally extend to third party booking sites or just via the car rental companies themselves?
You might be able to book on Priceline, and then use the confirmation number to look it up on the Alamo site and verify the total. I've done this with 3rd party reservations before and Alamo even let me do online check-in to skip the counter.

Speaking of prices with insurance included, many OTAs (mainly foreign ones in Europe or Asia) offer cheaper insurance than what the rental company charges officially. My impression is that for foreign travelers who must buy insurance, that could be a great deal. These OTAs probably negotiate lower insurance fees with rental companies directly. However, keep in mind some coverage might be coming from a separate company (though not always), which would create extra trouble if you do get into an accident.

For your last question, as long as the drive-out deal doesn't require a coupon code (which Alamo/National doesn't), they should be searchable on 3rd party sites. A few years ago some companies were doing the coupon thing, but at least in 2018 all drive-out discounts were public to all.
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