birdstrike

Punki stated she posted because Randy didn't reply to her emails. However you might well be correct and there may be a deeper component to this thread. <shrug>

tcook052

Is this type of comment really necessary? I thought such personal comments about another FTer were against TOS.

ozstamps

They are.

hfly

Is it governed by quarterly moon cycles, major sports championships, or what????

Punki

bridstrike writes:

What I actually said was:

I have received many e-mails from Randy on lots of different subjects, but he really doesn't answer all of the e-mail he receives. I can certainly empathize with him. I don't actually read and/or answer all of my e-mail and I would imagine that Randy probably gets a whole lot more than I do. He also probably builds up a lot more e-mails when he travels than I do as I always travel with a laptop and he doesn't.

Moreover, this is a serious issue that really upsets a lot of people who really would prefer to have the choice of offering gifts on Coupon Connection or within their individual programs or posting a news article that relates to a very specific program within that program. Many people honestly don't understand the logic of restricting specific program gifts and/or news articles from those specific programs. If Randy clearly stated his rationale, it might help them/us understand.

Football Fan

I believe the post was reported, but there is no indication under the user name of the poster that any action was taken.

Would the "super moderators" or "senior moderators" be authorized to take such action?

gleff

I assume that any report-a-post in this forum would be sent to Randy. Posts that might otherwise receive action by a moderator in another forum, I leave to Randy in this forum (unless he asks for assistance or directs otherwise).

That statement doesn't necessary apply to fake handles created to troll or to spam.

While Randy's schedule sometimes delays his response to items here (and sometimes I wish there were fewer items for him to deal with here, so that he might respond more often substantively in other areas of Flyertalk!) I leave it to him to judge the actions of members in his own living room (this forum).

I apologize if that's an unsatisfying response. But honestly I'm just getting a feel for my own boundaries in this role, and don't want to overstep them.

Regards,
Gary
aka gleff
"Senior Moderator" and
moderator, MilesBuzz and Delta forums

Football Fan

Thanks for the info, gleff. If I understand correctly, you are saying you could do it (technically have the power to do so), but you will not because it is Randy's forum, unless instructed otherwise. So you do not receive the "report-a-post" messages from this forum here? I thought the "senior moderators" would get those from all fora?

Sorry for being a bit off-topic, but who are the "super moderators"/"senior moderators" at this point, and what does it mean exactly - what are their competencies? Was there an announcement?

Morrissey

Yes, such comments are sometimes necessary. I would say that anyone who is so obsessed over such a trivial issue has a problem. Not only that, Punki has implied repeatedly that Randy's policy on posting these offers in CC only is "illogical", thereby implying that he doesn't know what he's doing. I consider that to be a personal attack (on our host no less).

tcook052

Opposition to a particular policy doesn't make one mentally unbalanced, despite your diagnosis. I trust RP will agree upon his return.

Punki

It appears that this may be a new concept for some of you, but disagreeing with someone on a particular point does not constitute mental instability, nor does it constitute a personal attack.

Restricting posts that relate to a specific program from being posted within that program is counter-intuitive. That is why the subject comes up again and again, and will continue to do so.

Most people, like me, will simply find other venues for offering gifts. Unfortunately, some will get upset enough at what they veiw as excessive moderation to leave FlyerTalk. If a simple explanation the the rule can keep people from leaving, then that sounds like a good thing to me.

Morrissey

I'm not talking about simple opposition, I'm talking about obsession. Big difference.

Dovster

Gleff, I understand your position and appreciate it but ORP is in a particularly precarious position.

For quite a long time it was the place on FlyerTalk to launch attacks on other posters. This stopped when wharvey became the moderator and IMHO it became a much healthier forum.

The particular post in question here, which stated in its entirety, "You really need to seek some sort of counseling...I feel sorry for you" served absolutely no constructive purpose nor did it add anything to the discussion.

I did not know that anyone else had reported it and thus did so myself. By reading comments above, I can see that I was not the only one.

If such posts are going to wait until Randy can give them his attention, ORP will return to its former "Let's swap insults" status and that will not be a happy development.

SMessier

Yet doing so would deprive you of the precious opportunity to beat the dead cow that is this topic and your perception of inappropriate moderation. Which is why I predict a few more years of this:

And on it goes...

JonNYC

If only those who can't abide by the simple rules that Randy has set would actually leave-- instead of repeatedly threatening to do so-- FT would undoubtedly be a better, more productive, calmer place. No one is irreplaceable here (except Randy, of course) no matter how inflated their sense of importance to FT is.