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Old Oct 19, 2001, 12:17 pm
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And now Mesa Airlines will reportedly be the first US carrier to allow pilots to carry Taser weapons in the cockpit.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/003138.html
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Old Oct 20, 2001, 6:25 am
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A BETTER APPROACH TO AIRPORT SECURITY

Federal lawmakers appear to be in quite a rush these days to be seen as "doing something" to combat terrorism. Does it matter to them if that something turns out to be rather foolish?

http://www.heritage.org/views/2001/ed101901b.html

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s a precaution against a growing number of reports of suspected anthrax on its planes, Northwest Airlines said yesterday that it would no longer give passengers powdered coffee creamer or artificial sweeteners.

The decision came after three recent incidents in which powdery substances were found on Northwest planes, prompting calls to the authorities to test for anthrax...

...Several other airlines, including United and US Airways, have endured delays after reports of suspicious substances. But Northwest has been the only one so far to change its service as a result.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/20/na...rchpv=nytToday

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Old Oct 21, 2001, 8:19 am
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DeLay Forges Ahead With GOP Plan for Airport Safety

Coming Battle Will Revisit Public vs. Private Control

..."We are not going to back down on this, period," said Souder, adding that Americans "want to know someone is in charge of making sure when they get on an airplane their life won't be in danger. They don't care if it's a federal employee or not."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2001Oct20.html
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Old Oct 22, 2001, 5:14 am
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For Flight Crews, Security Is New Focus

Attendants Take On Role of 'Human Shields' While Pilots Are Locked in Cockpit

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2001Oct21.html

Flight Attendants Say FAA Failure to Implement Security Provisions Puts Passengers and Cabin Crew at Risk

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/011022/dcm037_1.html

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Old Oct 23, 2001, 5:53 am
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New Airport Security Technology Launches In Amsterdam

Iridian Technologies and Joh. Enschede Deliver High Security and Increased Convenience for Both Airport Travelers and Employees

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/011023/230079_1.html

The U.S. DOT is considering recommendations that could impact performance of the industry's aging mainframe systems and require a costly overhaul.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/industr...idg/index.html


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Old Oct 24, 2001, 6:04 am
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AIRPORT SECURITY: COPY WHAT WORKS

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Old Oct 24, 2001, 7:22 am
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Now that doc has taken over this thread with press releases, this thread should be moved to In The News.
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Old Oct 29, 2001, 5:30 pm
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Carriers Continue to Fortify Doors

Major Airlines Continue to Fortify Cockpit Doors

http://biz.yahoo.com/apf/011029/cockpit_doors_1.html
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Old Oct 30, 2001, 5:54 am
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Search for nail clippers, not bombs
A commercial pilot says that security checks are laughably misdirected .

http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/20...ity/index.html
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Old Oct 31, 2001, 5:22 am
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A safety representative of the Air Line Pilots Association, speaking this evening at a hearing on proposed changes to Los Angeles International Airport, highlighted areas of concern for airport security.

http://news.airwise.com/stories/2001/10/1004477691.html


More on security:

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/tra...3.mainbar.html

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/tra...r/flight.risk/



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Old Nov 2, 2001, 7:02 am
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Association of Flight Attendants International President Patricia Friend, a member of the DOT Rapid Response Team for Aircraft Security and a United Airlines flight attendant, made this statement about the airline security bill passed by Congress this evening:

``Over 5,000 people have died. Everyday, thousands more lives are at risk. And to satisfy some morally bankrupt special interests, the White House and a few in Congress have now ensured that the dangerous security holes in our air transportation system will remain open for a while longer.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/011101/hsth024_1.html

Heightened airline and airport security measures are beginning to pay off, according to a comprehensive new air travel survey sponsored by Boeing. The survey found that 9 out of 10 Americans who have flown commercially since Sept. 11 felt "safe" or "very safe."

http://www.eyefortravel.com/index.asp?news=22458


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New York City mayoral candidate Mark Green accused House Republicans on Saturday of playing politics in their opposition to federalizing the security work force at the nation's airports.

In the Democrats' weekly radio address, he suggested the opposition was based on GOP fears that it would increase the membership of federal government unions.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...rchpv=aponline


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Don't Mess With These Attendants

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...s%2Dcalifornia


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A Shameful Vote on Air Safety

"It is a sad day for America. The House of Representatives' action placing the federal government in charge of airport security but without turning 28,000 baggage and passenger screeners into federal workers means delay in an area of urgency. If the House had passed the Senate bill, we could have had a bill on the president's desk today. Instead, there will now be a long delay while the two chambers wrangle.

If the Senate could put partisanship aside on this crucial issue and vote unanimously, why do the House Republican leadership and the president return to partisan warfare at a time when the American people want and need unity of purpose?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/03/op...rchpv=nytToday

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Old Nov 4, 2001, 3:46 pm
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Shaping a Compromise on Airport Security
Private, Federal Force Possible for Screeners


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2001Nov3.html


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LA airport security not so tight after all


Despite pronouncements that massive money is being poured to make flying safe in the United States, the level of security at the airport in Los Angeles, California, was put into question when a Filipino American arrived in Manila Saturday with two pistols in his checked-in luggage.

Alexander Salilias, 54, of Bacolod City, admitted that he owns the .32- and .25-caliber pistols found by Customs examiners during inspection.

Salilias, who arrived on Philippine Airlines flight PR-103 at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Terminal 2 said he did not encounter any difficulty in spiriting out the guns at the Los Angeles Airport.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/abs/inews...al/20011104043

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Old Nov 5, 2001, 5:14 am
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Actually the one thing that almost all of doc posts have in common is that it has almost become a game. The security is set up for failure, everybody and his brother is trying to prove that security sucks.

Yet the end result is that people are afraid to fly, and potentionally terrs have now a reason to think they can succeed in getting weapons on board. The terrs also no how much an asymetrical attack can do to the US with our overreaction. Think about it. If foriegn terrs are involved in the anthrax attack or not, less than six letters could end up costing the US economy as much as the 9-11 attacks. The cost in radiation equipment will be several billion and an additional 5% cost to run all letters through the new procedures. Remember to pass all of those costs through to the end.

We have got to show the world we are not the cowards they think we are. When will we learn to treat this like the war it is. During ww2, japan attacked us with firebombs attached to baloons. A couple of individuals were actually killed and some serious fires were started as the result. We did not let this info out. I am not sure the answer to the anthrax situation should be complete news blackout. But by our reaction we are setting the stage for others to attack us. Even if we irradiate mail for viruses, I am not sure that the this would stop a persistant chemical agent. An example is that CS can be made into a powder form. It is chemically stable and therefore would probably not be effected. I would bet that there are similar chemicals that would be more dangerous. Any comments?

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Old Nov 5, 2001, 5:53 am
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Yet rather than a game, it is a such a VERY serious issue!

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Why rely on low-bid airport safety?

Now that the House has passed its own airport-security bill, the stage is set for a showdown with the Senate over who gets the 28,000 jobs. The Senate wants federal employees at the baggage machines, while the House wants private contractors.

President Bush also favors private contractors. Only days after he expressed his appreciation to federal employees for "your dedication and integrity, your commitment to excellence and your love of our country," Bush was lobbying hard to prevent passage of a measure that would have set up a new federal workforce of airport screeners.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/comment...5-ncguest2.htm


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Seven private security workers at O'Hare International Airport were fired for allegedly allowing a man to pass through a security checkpoint with several knives and a stun gun in his carry-on luggage.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...re-Arrest.html


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Authorities probe connection with other detained man

CNN has learned of an apparent connection Gurung has with one of two men who were detained in Texas after the September 11 terrorist attacks.

Gurung listed the same West Hollywood Avenue apartment address in Chicago as Ayub Ali Khan, who is being held as a material witness in the September hijackings.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/11/05/inv...ach/index.html

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FAA might match luggage to fliers

Federal aviation officials might reverse government policy and require airlines to match checked bags with passengers. With officials struggling since the Sept. 11 attacks to increase security as swiftly as possible, the process known as "positive bag match" is gaining favor as an effective interim measure against terrorism.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/attack/2001/11/05/lede.htm

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Old Nov 5, 2001, 2:40 pm
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I do not know how to take your comment. I understand it is a serious issue. I also understand the types of procedures that would be required to significantly reduce current incidents and I can assure you that this will not allow people to fly. I also understand that the US needs to look back at WW2 to learn alittle more about about how to win the information war. Either the government as a whole needs to stand up and explain to people constantly and consistently that we are under threat and other attacks against us will be successful. No matter what changes are made. We are going to have serious problems as long as the media proclaims failure after failure and then government(especially congress) says that we can accept no failures. There needs to be reason. At the FAA and among politicians. There are failures among private security firms that gaurd corp secrets and government secrets. There are and will be failures among military, federal and local police forces. That is the sad fact of life. Where do we come off thinking we can ever achieve zero defect effectiveness in anything. Politicians pander and for everyone that thinks that placing any agency(either public or private) in charge will mean that security really will become the major requirement at an airport are deluded. Just as police in many areas have been forced to stop proactive policing after complaints, just the same will occur the moment people perceive a lower risk. If you want to learn anything from europe and Isreal, learn to be stoic about life. Accept that there are bomb threats, attacks and disruptions but don't give up living. People in Isreal know that there are suicide bombers but they still go to the cafes, discos and pizza places.

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