Who has the best no fee frequent flyer mile program with their credit cards. I am changing my credit card and would like suggestions on who is the best to deal with on earning air miles.
Thanks

Most airline cards come with an annual fee. But they also usually come with signup bonuses worth more than the annual fee -- and the difference in earnings between no-fee cards and fee cards is usually enough to justify the fee. (Many airlines offer no fee cards that only earn 1 mile for every 2 dollars for instance. ).

One no-fee airline card exception is the Lufthansa Visa.

Right now, Northwest is offering a 15,000 mile signup bonus and fee waived the first year but this offer expires August 31. Call (800) 360-2900, extension 2677.

Delta offers fee waivers on it's Amex quite frequently, but the most recent one I know of expired May 15.

On the other hand, hotel programs often offer no-fee cards. Hilton offers both a no-fee Visa and a no-fee Amex.

Personally, I find the best mileage earning card to be the Starwood American Express which is free the first year and $30 thereafter, comes with a nice signup bonus, and offers points which can be used for hotel stays or converted 1:1 into most airline programs (not United though -- that's 2:1 ).

Another deal worth mentioning is the United Visa with a 20,000 mile signup bonus. The fee is $60. Once you get the card, you can upgrade to the "Gold Class" Visa for another 5000 (and a percentage of an extra $25 depending on how many months until your card renews). You can also get additional fee-free cards on the account and be rewarded with 2500 miles per card.

But as far as what card is best for you -- well that depends on what your award goals are. After all, different airlines fly to different places and offer awards at different point levels. Want to go to Hawaii? Delta awards are generally less expensive (but check out Mexicana's Star Alliance award chart -- only 40,000 miles for a first class ticket from anywhere in the U.S.).

Another thing to consider is whether you pay your card off each month. Many of the mileage earning cards have high APRs. (The United Visa is > 14%. The LH Visa is nearly 10%. Gary Steiger's website lists a no fee card with 0% interest on balance transfers but no miles.)

Hope this helps. If not, you might check out some past threads:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/008663.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/008604.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/007922.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/007772.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/007672.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/007448.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/007324.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/007259.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/003544.html

Cheers,
Gary


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Excellent advice in the previous post. I'd just add that, before you pick a credit card, answer two more questions for yourself:

1. Which airline(s) do you want points on? With rare exceptions, most people don't earn enough miles through credit cards to get good awards. If (unless you're one of those exceptions) you can't get miles on an airline you'll also fly on a good deal, it's not the right credit card.

2. How many $$ (or whatever) will you charge per year? That affects whether or not the miles justify the fee.

Finally, if you expect to earn enough just through charging to get awards and your primary interest is in economy-class flights, consider a card where you collect points in their own program rather than airline miles. They only make sense if that's your profile, but if it is, they can work out well.

The subject has been well covered many times and is difficult to answer well without specific information about the spending and redemption habits of the specific individuals involved. (Hint, provide more detail and we can be more helpful).

But in the interest of being helpful and bumping up my post count in the process, I'll suggest you look into hotel affinity cards - Starwood Amex for $30 a year with the first year free or the Hilton Amex or Visa. Also suggest you look into the Amtrak Visa. It allows transfers into Continental and has some good redemption on its own. Check them out on the Amtrak website.

Yup. Good call.

No fee. 500 point signup bonus. Miles transfer 1:1 into United, Continental, or Midwest in 5000 point blocks as well as being redeemable for Amtrak trips and various other things.

http://www.amtrakguestrewards.com/in...ingdetail.html

Gary

[This message has been edited by gleff (edited 10-18-2003).]