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brucemcal Jun 8, 2003 5:39 pm

$10 security fee for FF tickets gone!
 
Booked my first FF ticket today for a reservation made after June 1 for a flight before September 1. No $10 security fee.

Agent seemed surprised and rechecked, but finally issued the ticket.

Bruce

dinise Jun 8, 2003 9:00 pm

Can you book between now and September 30th and fly after that date and not pay the $10.00?

RunawayNFly Jun 9, 2003 5:17 am

This is slightly off the subject but you may want to try to get back the $10 9/11 security fee if you paid for a ticket in May and are flying before 9/30/03. I got back the $10 fare increase that the airlines made in May to compensate for the anitcipated elimination of the security fee a few weeks later. Worth the phone call, espically if you have multiple tickets involved. I checked on the web for the price prior to calling.

ozstamps Jun 9, 2003 5:28 am

We are flying SYD-LAX-IAD-AMS and back in July on UA.

Can we get the fees back - assume that is $US20 each?

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hhonorman Jun 9, 2003 9:44 am

Was the fee charged on all flights, or only on some? How does the fee show up on the ticket; what is the code for the tax?

I have a ticket on United from BOS to ORD for June and I'm wondering if I can get a refund. I'm unclear on what each tax represents, here are the taxes and accompanying codes that are on the ticket:

Fare USD 146.98
Tax 11.02 US
Tax 7.50 XF
Tax 6.00 ZP
Tax 5.00 AY

Does anyone know if I can get a refund on any of the above-listed taxes? Thanks.

simba_az Jun 9, 2003 10:41 am

The September 11th security fee will be listed as AY under the taxes column of your fare.

rbernheim Jun 9, 2003 11:41 am

Just called United and was told that they are not refundeing the fee. Has any one had a refund from them?

chix Jun 9, 2003 11:43 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by rbernheim:
Just called United and was told that they are not refundeing the fee. Has any one had a refund from them?</font>
If I had to guess, I would say that they by law would be required to refund.

funfun Jun 9, 2003 10:19 pm

I bought a ticket in Asia and was charged security fees for a Malaysian airlines flight.
Anyone know of when the security fees are dropped worldwide?

iluv2fly Jun 10, 2003 1:12 am

Can anyone explain this?

Is there a reference to this waiver and where/when it applies?

Thank you.

KathyWdrf Jun 10, 2003 1:34 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by iluv2fly:
Can anyone explain this?

Is there a reference to this waiver and where/when it applies?

Thank you.
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Take a look at this FlyerTalk thread:

Effect of 2003 Security Fee Holiday


Kathy


smarten Jun 11, 2003 9:04 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by iluv2fly:
Can anyone explain this?</font>
Interesting subject. Checked the tsa.gov web site and found the legislation at 49 USC 40101, et seq. The "fee" in particular is set forth at 49 USC 44940. Could not find any reference on the dhs.gov site to the government refunding the fee to the airlines but have been advised it exists. If anyone has that cite would appreciate hearing from you.

Just like the airline excise tax this fee is payable by the airlines but collectable from the passenger. For convenience reasons it is collected upon sale but accrues upon transportation [because the legislation states that if anyone who has paid the fee does not receive security screening services he/she may secure refund of the fee - those services cannot take place until transportation has commenced]. The fee is $2.50/segment NTE $5.00/one way. Therefore the maximum fee is $10.00/round trip and it is designated by most carriers as a SEPARATE tax from the airline excise tax - denoted by the code "AY." This does not mean every trip is assessed $10.00 but rather, the maximum fee per round trip is $10.00.

In any event, I like others paid AA this fee for travel commencing after June 1/before September 30 and they refuse to refund it. If the fee is refundable to the airline then it is almost identical to the airline excise tax debacle of several years ago when it expired and was not reinstated [non-retroactively] for some 8 months; the airlines pocketed the tax by either not turning it over to the Government or securing "credits" on future excise tax returns; and the consumer had no means of recovering it because: a) the airline was immune from suit as the Government's tax collector; and, b) the consumer had no procedural means of recovering the tax like airlines since he/she did not file an excise tax return and thus was unable to claim a "credit." Here although the airlines may be able to claim the "credit" on whatever returns they file with the tsa, you and I cannot unless the tsa sets up a mechanism to handle consumer refunds.

In any event there is apparently a toll free telephone number to contact the tsa if anyone is interested - (866) 289-9673. I called and after waiting 12 or more minutes was transferred to another extension which promptly disconnected me [I guess now that the fee has been suspended the tsa does not have funding to operate a telephone system]. Called again and transferred to a voicemail system where I left a message for a call back. Hopefully I will receive one and can report any positive information. To the rest of you, don't give up hope and good luck; the fee should be refundable to all of us!


delacpa Jun 11, 2003 9:39 am

Just checked my MasterCard balance --- $10 credit from AA!! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cool.gif

RunawayNFly Jun 11, 2003 10:51 am

Did you previously ask for the refund or was it done automatically by AA generating something en masse?

ozstamps Jun 11, 2003 11:37 am



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