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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by maulah
Is it true that there are many more AA elites than UA 1K's which makes competition among AA elites very tough, specially from AA hubs like LA?
At this moment there are twice as many FT members on the UA boards as on the AA boards. This could mean many things but it at least suggests that the answer to your question is no.
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by maulah
Is it true that there are many more AA elites than UA 1K's which makes competition among AA elites very tough, specially from AA hubs like LA?
AA doesn't fly to some destinations where UA goes in SE Asia and Australia/NZ. Hence I will stay with UA because those are the places I go (and hope for upgrades). AA has code-share to Australia/NZ but code-share doesn't get you any upgrades
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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 7:51 pm
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Originally Posted by maulah
Is it true that there are many more AA elites than UA 1K's which makes competition among AA elites very tough, specially from AA hubs like LA?
I don't know how the number of UA and AA 100,000 flyers compare. I am guessing the numbers are similar.

The reason AA EXPs clear more is a higher ratio or F:Y seats on AA versus UA on most planes.

Originally Posted by Fornebufox
At this moment there are twice as many FT members on the UA boards as on the AA boards. This could mean many things but it at least suggests that the answer to your question is no.
I think the reason for this is certain dynamics that emerged on the AA board over the last few years making it a less friendly place to join than the UA Flyertalk board.

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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 12:41 pm
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I have a question on the AA upgrade charge of $300 to upgrade with miles. Does this apply to elites and general members? I know the fare price is an issue also.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 1:21 pm
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Originally Posted by skywalk
I have a question on the AA upgrade charge of $300 to upgrade with miles. Does this apply to elites and general members? I know the fare price is an issue also.
Yes, the co-pay to upgrade with miles applies to everyone.

The number of miles required and the co-pay amount depends on the route - shorter routes are less than $300.

Because the lowest upgradable fares are often less $ on AA than UA, the end price is often about the same (UA requires mid-range fare codes to be upgrade eligible).

AA EXPs (100K level) get 8 VIPs. These systemwide upgrades do not have a co-pay. But even EXPs pay the co-pay when using miles to upgrade.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 2:13 pm
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AFAIK, there is only one airline that offers unlimited free systemwide (incl. intercontinental) upgrades to its elites.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:48 pm
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Originally Posted by graraps
AFAIK, there is only one airline that offers unlimited free systemwide (incl. intercontinental) upgrades to its elites.
True, but this is one of the smaller European Airlines. Not a very major player and thus not a good option for the average flyer. If you happen to fly just the right routes than you might be in luck.

But keep in mind that even on this airline the upgrades are space available and cannot be counted on.

Also very important is that this airline does not have a modern business class product. It is outdated and inferior to most of the big players today.

Lastly, this benefit is only for those who have top tier elite status on that airline.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 3:57 am
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Originally Posted by wanaflyforless
But keep in mind that even on this airline the upgrades are space available and cannot be counted on.
Over the past 3.5 years, my upgrade success rate (even as a silver to begin with) on said airline has consistently been over 90%. Only a couple of routes have a high enough concentration of elites that would put your u/g at risk.

Originally Posted by wanaflyforless
Also very important is that this airline does not have a modern business class product. It is outdated and inferior to most of the big players today.
Only true for longhaul. Intra-Europe, it's quite possibly the best business class product available (a lot better than the big 3).

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Lastly, this benefit is only for those who have top tier elite status on that airline.
Everyone gets it for European flights. For intercontinental, out of the 3 tiers, only silvers have to pay a small amount of miles for the upgrade.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 5:28 am
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Originally Posted by wanaflyforless
[B][U]The US and NW F product also tends to be a little lower quality than the competition.
Comparing US F to NW F is like saying Ron Paul is right on the heels of McCain. Last US F flight the seat wasn't anywhere close to the size and comfort of NW F. Heck, the C9 F seat was better than the US F seat.
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