If BD Merges with LH (and M&M) - What Program, Then?
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If BD Merges with LH (and M&M) - What Program, Then?
There are rumors spreading that LH will initiate a takeover of BD in the next few years, and likely merge DiamondClub into M&M. Here are the perks of the BD program that I really like:
1. Excellent Earning on Y/Q-UP domestic F fares (300%...up to 600% if I have flown 55Kmi in my Gold Year).
2. 4 Upgrade Vouchers Y->Y+ each year.
3. Part Cash/Part Miles Rewards (even in Premium Cabins).
4. One-Way Reward redemption (at 50% of roundtrip cost, even for Miles+Cash)
5. Ability to redeem for International F.
Assuming BD gets bought out and merges, which program is next best? I don't have any interest in UA, as CO takes care of me for all my domestic upgrading needs (without instruments). I'm really looking for a program that's closer to what BD offers (high mileage earning rates, part cash/miles, and ability to redeem for International F awards). I could even manage to live without cash/mi awards, if the earning abilities/rates were sufficient to mean I could still rack up beaucoup miles by flying creatively routed Y/Q-UP domestic F fares. I don't particularly care what alliance the back-up program is in, so long as it fulfills the criteria.
Any advice would be appreciated.
1. Excellent Earning on Y/Q-UP domestic F fares (300%...up to 600% if I have flown 55Kmi in my Gold Year).
2. 4 Upgrade Vouchers Y->Y+ each year.
3. Part Cash/Part Miles Rewards (even in Premium Cabins).
4. One-Way Reward redemption (at 50% of roundtrip cost, even for Miles+Cash)
5. Ability to redeem for International F.
Assuming BD gets bought out and merges, which program is next best? I don't have any interest in UA, as CO takes care of me for all my domestic upgrading needs (without instruments). I'm really looking for a program that's closer to what BD offers (high mileage earning rates, part cash/miles, and ability to redeem for International F awards). I could even manage to live without cash/mi awards, if the earning abilities/rates were sufficient to mean I could still rack up beaucoup miles by flying creatively routed Y/Q-UP domestic F fares. I don't particularly care what alliance the back-up program is in, so long as it fulfills the criteria.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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There are rumors spreading that LH will initiate a takeover of BD in the next few years, and likely merge DiamondClub into M&M. Here are the perks of the BD program that I really like:
1. Excellent Earning on Y/Q-UP domestic F fares (300%...up to 600% if I have flown 55Kmi in my Gold Year).
2. 4 Upgrade Vouchers Y->Y+ each year.
3. Part Cash/Part Miles Rewards (even in Premium Cabins).
4. One-Way Reward redemption (at 50% of roundtrip cost, even for Miles+Cash)
5. Ability to redeem for International F.
Assuming BD gets bought out and merges, which program is next best? I don't have any interest in UA, as CO takes care of me for all my domestic upgrading needs (without instruments). I'm really looking for a program that's closer to what BD offers (high mileage earning rates, part cash/miles, and ability to redeem for International F awards). I could even manage to live without cash/mi awards, if the earning abilities/rates were sufficient to mean I could still rack up beaucoup miles by flying creatively routed Y/Q-UP domestic F fares. I don't particularly care what alliance the back-up program is in, so long as it fulfills the criteria.
Any advice would be appreciated.
1. Excellent Earning on Y/Q-UP domestic F fares (300%...up to 600% if I have flown 55Kmi in my Gold Year).
2. 4 Upgrade Vouchers Y->Y+ each year.
3. Part Cash/Part Miles Rewards (even in Premium Cabins).
4. One-Way Reward redemption (at 50% of roundtrip cost, even for Miles+Cash)
5. Ability to redeem for International F.
Assuming BD gets bought out and merges, which program is next best? I don't have any interest in UA, as CO takes care of me for all my domestic upgrading needs (without instruments). I'm really looking for a program that's closer to what BD offers (high mileage earning rates, part cash/miles, and ability to redeem for International F awards). I could even manage to live without cash/mi awards, if the earning abilities/rates were sufficient to mean I could still rack up beaucoup miles by flying creatively routed Y/Q-UP domestic F fares. I don't particularly care what alliance the back-up program is in, so long as it fulfills the criteria.
Any advice would be appreciated.
If BD merges, it is likely (IMO) that the most lucrative aspects of the BD program will disappear, like numbers 1, 2, and 3 in your list above. Nonetheless, I think LH would not be a bad program to keep because of the ability to redeem for international F and access to reward avaialbility on other Star Alliance carriers. Being SEN, however, requires 100k EQM, a tough total to achieve while maintaining top tier in another program (CO) - you would end up flying UA quite a bit domestically to pad your LH EQM's.
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If BD merges, it is likely (IMO) that the most lucrative aspects of the BD program will disappear, like numbers 1, 2, and 3 in your list above. Nonetheless, I think LH would not be a bad program to keep because of the ability to redeem for international F and access to reward avaialbility on other Star Alliance carriers. Being SEN, however, requires 100k EQM, a tough total to achieve while maintaining top tier in another program (CO) - you would end up flying UA quite a bit domestically to pad your LH EQM's.
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1. Excellent Earning on Y/Q-UP domestic F fares (300%...up to 600% if I have flown 55Kmi in my Gold Year).
2. 4 Upgrade Vouchers Y->Y+ each year.
3. Part Cash/Part Miles Rewards (even in Premium Cabins).
4. One-Way Reward redemption (at 50% of roundtrip cost, even for Miles+Cash)
5. Ability to redeem for International F.
2. 4 Upgrade Vouchers Y->Y+ each year.
3. Part Cash/Part Miles Rewards (even in Premium Cabins).
4. One-Way Reward redemption (at 50% of roundtrip cost, even for Miles+Cash)
5. Ability to redeem for International F.
1) 300% (or 325% once have status if QUP is on UA), and note also that minimum miles multiply with COS and status bonuses (so minimum miles in first on UA/US = 1500 or 1625)
2) if SEN then 2 upgrade vouchers Y->C OR C->F every 2nd year (ie on qualification and requalification), good for 1 intercontinental flight or 2 intracontinental flights, HON get several more upgrade vouchers
3) kinda cash & miles - the award taxes are hefty
4) one-way award is only small discount to round trip (one-way = 70%? of return)
5) no problem
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One of the benefits that we would have with LH that we don't with BD is a credit card in the US. We would lose the generous Hilton earning though
I had thought that SEN took 2 years to earn and was good for 2 years. Am I mistaken? Not that its all that concerning, just curious.
Just checked the LH website. One year to earn, 2 years to keep.

I had thought that SEN took 2 years to earn and was good for 2 years. Am I mistaken? Not that its all that concerning, just curious.
Just checked the LH website. One year to earn, 2 years to keep.
Last edited by cstead; Dec 13, 2007 at 3:35 pm
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Nope. SEN requalification is in either one of 2 calendar year (and strictly also the final Jan-Feb bit), and qualification in a single calendar year. Status however does last a minimum of 26 months.
HON (re)qualification is based on 2 consecutive calendar years.
HON (re)qualification is based on 2 consecutive calendar years.
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