Newbie question. What's a J/F ticket?
May 16, 2007, 5:58 pm
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J and F are booking codes commonly used by airlines to denote business class and first class respectively, thus on FT are used as shorthand (C is another common shorthand for business class).
Note there is no uniform standard for booking classes used by all airlines.
Note there is no uniform standard for booking classes used by all airlines.
May 16, 2007, 7:19 pm
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Thanks KF. Another newbie question if you don't mind. What exactly is the difference between coach and business class? And what is the difference between business class and first class?
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May 16, 2007, 7:27 pm
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It all depends on the airline, and often on the specific aircraft even for a given airline. On aircraft with three classes, Business Class is somewhere between Coach and First Class. On most airlines, the difference between Coach and Business (as far as the seat and amenities go) is much greater than the difference between Business and First.
May 16, 2007, 7:46 pm
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And probably at it's greatest on long haul flights....
Where (fr'instance) in:
Coach (aka Economy) the seats are about 17.5-18.5" wide and the seat [I]pitch[I] ranges from 31 to 34" ( some airlines offer more width and/or pitch in "Economy Plus/Premium Economy" options)
Business OTOH can have a traditional seat with a width over 21" and a pitch of anything up to 60".. or, with newer products, the seat turns into an angled flat bed (head slightly higher than feet) or a truly "flat bed"...
First class these days on international flights can be anything from a very large conventional seat, to a sealed off mini cabin!!!
Have a look at jetphotos.com, and select any large passenger aircraft type and "Cabin interiors"... That will show you the HUGE differences that exist!
(Exceptions apply of course, both up and down)
Seat pitch is the distance from any point on one seat to the SAME point on the one in front/behind....
BIG difference in meals etc as well......
Where (fr'instance) in:
Coach (aka Economy) the seats are about 17.5-18.5" wide and the seat [I]pitch[I] ranges from 31 to 34" ( some airlines offer more width and/or pitch in "Economy Plus/Premium Economy" options)
Business OTOH can have a traditional seat with a width over 21" and a pitch of anything up to 60".. or, with newer products, the seat turns into an angled flat bed (head slightly higher than feet) or a truly "flat bed"...
First class these days on international flights can be anything from a very large conventional seat, to a sealed off mini cabin!!!
Have a look at jetphotos.com, and select any large passenger aircraft type and "Cabin interiors"... That will show you the HUGE differences that exist!
(Exceptions apply of course, both up and down)
Seat pitch is the distance from any point on one seat to the SAME point on the one in front/behind....
BIG difference in meals etc as well......
May 16, 2007, 8:06 pm
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An example of very good first class product
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...lass/index.jsp
An example of very good business class product
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...lass/index.jsp
An example of very good coach/economy class product
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...lass/index.jsp
As you can see, there's a huge difference.
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...lass/index.jsp
An example of very good business class product
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...lass/index.jsp
An example of very good coach/economy class product
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...lass/index.jsp
As you can see, there's a huge difference.
May 17, 2007, 2:16 am
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it's a bummer when you spend 45,000 miles on United to fly from BOS-ASE and the "business class" seating is only really existant on the BOS-DEN portion of your trip. Going from DEN-ASE is on a small UA plane that really has only one type of seat. Oh well. They ought to give you more drinks for that! 
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