I wonder what happened to the title "spies, espionage, Spione". The title disappeared from my monitor and I can't click it anymore ....

The discussion was about the "danger" of revealing "holes" in mileage-programs (danger of airlines discovering those holes and eliminating them).

Rudi ~ My guess is that "they" killed it ...

It is still there if you know how to get to it (Hint: It was topic 56). Why was it "Killed?" There was nothing bad about (Boring but not bad).

ok, i managed to get to that topic too, using rthib's hint...but, if they wanna kill it, why still leave the thread there ?? actually only the first post (from Rudi, i remember ?) is missing...

sorry - I have no idea how I can OPEN topic 56. May be 56 shows only on Windows-programs and not on my Mac?

i'm not sure if it's the only way...try copying the following url to your browser and open the page...it's all on one single line...

http://www.flyertalk.com/forumcgi/Ultimate.cgi?action=threadlist&forum=The+Buzz!&num ber=1&topic=000056-000000-072898-000004.msg&Browser=other&DaysPrune=20&LastLogin=24 51023.101&NewThreadPosts=yes

thank you - it worked.

I can't seem to get there now. Does anyone have it? If so, email it to me.
Thanx--jaws43

I cant get it either. Please email to me
as well. Thanks a lot.

Ditto on the not getting into Rudi's site,
whose title shows up blank on my program.

If someone could e-mail it to me, I would
appreciate it. Thanks! CATMAN

I got to it with no problem...I even had a reply on the omitted thread.

Make sure you cut and paste the whole url thread...it should work. If you can't get there, send me an email by the end of the day, and I will reply. Can't reply after today because I will be on vacation.

**** I think we are being censored.

Here is a "cut-n-paste" of the erased thread...

Beckles
posted 07-27-98 09:01 AM MST (US)

Rudi ~ I'm starting to think your paranoid *grin*

If they were listening, don't you think they would have implemented all of the great changes that have been recommended in the discussions here? *grin*

The airlines don't even seem to read letters you send directly to them, I'd be quite surprised if they were in here reading our discussions, but you never know.
Rudi
posted 07-27-98 09:37 AM MST (US)

I first hyve to conult my diccionary (grin?) befor I call my lawyer -....

No, no I am quite having fun here - beside really learning (and may be contributing a little bit) I can also improve my english.
Rudi
posted 07-27-98 09:38 AM MST (US)

and may be I can also improve my typing - sorry.
Justin
posted 07-27-98 09:45 AM MST (US)

One person that posted on here provided a link to his airline complaint site; he stated that one airline visited his site every week. Yes, the airlines probably frequently check comments on this site or hire someone to do it for them. One firm actively searches the entire internet to find anything said about their client; large corporations usually hire the firm to find out what is being said about them. I agree we should not post where the "holes" are so that the airlines can fill them. I also never say anything that I know to be inaccurate or false.

Oh, one more thing...the post I was responding to in the deleted thread is missing from the deleted thread.

Wonder how long until this thread gets vanished???

Justin, your comments about airlines (and other firms) checking sites like this one is very interesting. Many companies are very scared of what "virtual communities" like these will do to business. In the past, customer complaints about service, prices, etc. had very limited distribution. You wrote a letter to the company with your complaint and maybe told a few friends/colleagues. In a few rare instances, maybe the press did a story about an issue that impacted numerous customers. Things are different now. Complaints receive very wide distribution - anyone on the Net can access these postings and learn of problems with particular firms. It puts even more of a premium on customer service and quality than ever before. Although airlines may be looking at this site, not a single one has done anything (at least from what I've seen) to address issues raised. They don't get it! This a great opportunity for them to establish productive dialogue with some of their best customers! If any airline reps. are reading, take the plunge. Help us FFs understand your concerns and policies while helping us get problems resolved.

It was probably only a computer (software) failure - and I am so proud, that you/we consider my opinion that important that it may be "killed" by somebody.

A "professional killer" would have erased everything.