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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 10:06 am
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Buy Full Flex ticket, cancel it, get points on CC?

Hi! I thought about if i bought a very expensive C class Full Flex ticket with refund and i buy it with my CC which i can earn miles on every Euro spent, and then cancel it and get refund, would i get the miles?

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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 10:07 am
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No.

Its a wash.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 10:41 am
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The airline would credit back the refund to the credit card you used originally.... so, you would get "negative" miles or points for the refund... totally offsetting the original miles.

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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 10:49 am
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OK thanks for the quick replies!
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 2:32 am
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this DID work once when george Costanza tried it. Then again, that was the 1990s and they ended up on the flight in that episode
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 10:37 am
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But...

If you bought the ticket for a date far away, used the miles you earned and then return the ticket, you would be okay. You would have anegative FF balance but that isn't a big deal, is it???
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by PhillyFlyer47
If you bought the ticket for a date far away, used the miles you earned and then return the ticket, you would be okay. You would have anegative FF balance but that isn't a big deal, is it???
The refund is back to credit card, meaning you will have that much less balance on next CC statement. SO, less miles for next statement.
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 11:03 am
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Sounds like the old "expense account" scam. One would buy an expensive refundable coach ticket, run it on the credit card, turn it into the Company, and then cancel it and buy a cheapie to pocket the difference
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 11:11 am
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When if the CC makes double miles on flight purchases? So when the refunds go back to the CC, will double miles be deducted from that billing cycle then?
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 5:08 pm
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When did this forum turn into S.C.A.M. instead of S.P.A.M. ? Oh, well, I guess it's MilesBuzz, not S.P.A.M., but still, the point remains the same.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 2:28 am
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Originally Posted by chasbondy
Sounds like the old "expense account" scam. One would buy an expensive refundable coach ticket, run it on the credit card, turn it into the Company, and then cancel it and buy a cheapie to pocket the difference
Which got quite a few people (high profile even) in trouble for tax evasion a few years back.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by donuteric
When if the CC makes double miles on flight purchases? So when the refunds go back to the CC, will double miles be deducted from that billing cycle then?
Wait until the double miles period ends to do the refund.
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Random_Flyer
Which got quite a few people (high profile even) in trouble for tax evasion a few years back.
so they would have been ok if they declared it on their 1040 right?
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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man
this DID work once when george Costanza tried it. Then again, that was the 1990s and they ended up on the flight in that episode
It didn't work. Kramer messed up and actually bought nonrefundable tickets with George's credit card because they were cheaper.
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 9:45 am
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so they would have been ok if they declared it on their 1040 right?
I don't know about "ok", but they wouldn't have been in tax trouble.

(Remember what they finally got Al Capone on. IRS takes the position that whether gains are legal or ill-gotten makes no difference for purposes of tax liability.)
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