Problem using AMEX for US Savings Bonds
#46
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by USAFAN:
Has somebody charged the purchase of Savings Bonds with the Amexco SkyMiles Credit Card in order to get 2 SkyMiles for 1 dollar?
Or is the purchase of Savings Bonds exempt of the 1 $ to 2 Miles exchange?</font>
Has somebody charged the purchase of Savings Bonds with the Amexco SkyMiles Credit Card in order to get 2 SkyMiles for 1 dollar?
Or is the purchase of Savings Bonds exempt of the 1 $ to 2 Miles exchange?</font>
#47
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by burgerwars:
I don't think so from what I just read
on a credit card info website:
Two (2) miles for every dollar ($1) spent at stand-alone grocery stores, gas stations, drugstores, Delta Airlines, home improvement stores, the U.S. Postal Service, or when used to pay a wireless phone bill.
Read Terms and Conditions for more details.
So unless a lot of your purchases fall into those categories, most of your miles will be one for each dollar. A nice thought, though, if they'll ever let you do that.</font>
I don't think so from what I just read
on a credit card info website:
Two (2) miles for every dollar ($1) spent at stand-alone grocery stores, gas stations, drugstores, Delta Airlines, home improvement stores, the U.S. Postal Service, or when used to pay a wireless phone bill.
Read Terms and Conditions for more details.
So unless a lot of your purchases fall into those categories, most of your miles will be one for each dollar. A nice thought, though, if they'll ever let you do that.</font>
#50
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Thanks to all.
And yes, you also have to register at American Express in order to get the double SkyMiles until August 15, 2002.
http://www10.americanexpress.com/sif...41,9316,00.asp
And yes, you also have to register at American Express in order to get the double SkyMiles until August 15, 2002.
http://www10.americanexpress.com/sif...41,9316,00.asp
#51
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Ochogger:
According to AMEX customer service the maximum bonus allowed on the double mileage promo is 20,000. I bought 10k of bonds, but anything over that is 1-1 miles.</font>
According to AMEX customer service the maximum bonus allowed on the double mileage promo is 20,000. I bought 10k of bonds, but anything over that is 1-1 miles.</font>
#52
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Just got off the phone with a supervisor at AMEX to find out that you are correct. Spoke to two people at AMEX yesterday before buying my bonds and was told that 10k was the max. to get the bonus of 20k. Wish these people knew what they were doing!!!
#53
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There is enough evidence (this forum and others, even the government web site) that purchase of savings bond against a credit card is considered a "purchase" and not cash advance.
Last week I bought savings bonds using SkyMiles AMEX card. As of today, the charges have not appeared on my account. When asked, I am told that these charges have been "authorized" but have not been presented yet for a payment, so the funds are locked but not paid yet.
Fine...but
when I inquired about mileage accrual, I WAS GIVEN A SHOCK.
The CSR told me that these purchses are considered "cash advances", will be charged 3.5% transaction fee, will not earn miles, and will start interest from the day charged. when i asked for a supervisor, ALL WERE BUSY. She was pretty confident about her answer, so I did not argue.
Someone please tell me she is wrong!!!
Last week I bought savings bonds using SkyMiles AMEX card. As of today, the charges have not appeared on my account. When asked, I am told that these charges have been "authorized" but have not been presented yet for a payment, so the funds are locked but not paid yet.
Fine...but
when I inquired about mileage accrual, I WAS GIVEN A SHOCK.
The CSR told me that these purchses are considered "cash advances", will be charged 3.5% transaction fee, will not earn miles, and will start interest from the day charged. when i asked for a supervisor, ALL WERE BUSY. She was pretty confident about her answer, so I did not argue.
Someone please tell me she is wrong!!!
#54
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She is wrong! All of my recent purchases have posted as purchases. Call back and speak to somebody who is more knowledgeable.
Here's what my statement reflects:
SAVINGS BONDS DIRECT304-480-6112
XXXXXX SAVINGS BONDS DIRECT
Here's what my statement reflects:
SAVINGS BONDS DIRECT304-480-6112
XXXXXX SAVINGS BONDS DIRECT
#55
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She is (fortunately!)
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!
If you look on the Govt website, I believe it can even be found there. I'm certain if you get someone who is the slightest bit in the know at the CC company, you can work around this minor problem. Just play CSR roulette until you hit on someone who appears to know the skinny, and get their name/phone #/company identifier or whatever else you need and you should be fine.
Best Wishes.
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!
If you look on the Govt website, I believe it can even be found there. I'm certain if you get someone who is the slightest bit in the know at the CC company, you can work around this minor problem. Just play CSR roulette until you hit on someone who appears to know the skinny, and get their name/phone #/company identifier or whatever else you need and you should be fine.
Best Wishes.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by greentea:
Fine...but
when I inquired about mileage accrual, I WAS GIVEN A SHOCK.
The CSR told me that these purchses are considered "cash advances", will be charged 3.5% transaction fee, will not earn miles, and will start interest from the day charged. when i asked for a supervisor, ALL WERE BUSY. She was pretty confident about her answer, so I did not argue.
Someone please tell me she is wrong!!!
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Fine...but
when I inquired about mileage accrual, I WAS GIVEN A SHOCK.
The CSR told me that these purchses are considered "cash advances", will be charged 3.5% transaction fee, will not earn miles, and will start interest from the day charged. when i asked for a supervisor, ALL WERE BUSY. She was pretty confident about her answer, so I did not argue.
Someone please tell me she is wrong!!!
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Also, Series EE Bonds are now also called "Patriot Bonds." How patriotic would it be for a bank to charge you a cash advance fee, a higher interest rate, plus interest starting from the day of purchase until the day you pay it off, for you being patriotic for purchasing these things?
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question about cashing the patriot bonds after 6 months,can we do it in any bank?can you give me some bank names where we can cash them.what would be the total interest for 6 months for 10000$
396$-198$(penalty for 3 cashing before 9 months)can someone explain this please
396$-198$(penalty for 3 cashing before 9 months)can someone explain this please
#58
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As I have stated elsewhere, when AMEX first was added as a credit card option, it was pulled temporarilty because they wanted to treat it as a cash advance. The govt made it very clear that that was not their purpose for bond putchases - that people borrowed money to buy them. It got settled, and AMEX was added back in. So it is AMEX's aggreement with the US govt that these bonds be treated as purchases. I received e-mails from the US Savings Bonds dept in regard to this. Every purchase (AMEX Starwood) has been treated as a purchase. Why don't you wait a few days, check on-line - probably you will see it correctly handled.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by sp29201:
question about cashing the patriot bonds after 6 months,can we do it in any bank?can you give me some bank names where we can cash them.what would be the total interest for 6 months for 10000$
396$-198$(penalty for 3 cashing before 9 months)can someone explain this please</font>
question about cashing the patriot bonds after 6 months,can we do it in any bank?can you give me some bank names where we can cash them.what would be the total interest for 6 months for 10000$
396$-198$(penalty for 3 cashing before 9 months)can someone explain this please</font>
#60
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Which type of bond should one purchase if they are planning on cashing it in 3-months: EE or I?
It is hard for me to tell a real difference between the two. Why should I choose one over the other?
Thanks for your help!
It is hard for me to tell a real difference between the two. Why should I choose one over the other?
Thanks for your help!

