Award Tickets - Maximum Length between flights?
Nov 23, 2006 | 9:37 pm
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Award Tickets - Maximum Length between flights?
I was recently considering the outside possibility of using FF miles for a longer trip- say for 6 months or more. But then I realized that I wasn't sure if FF tickets have a "maximum stay" requirement. I tried looking it up on UA & NW, but didn't really get anywhere. The closest I got was with UA, that both your dates have to be within the 330 day booking window. Of course, I've already read tons on FT about getting your first date put on hold and then adding dates later, etc, etc.
So, does anyone know what the general rule of thumb is for award tickets? Is there an official maximum length, or can you keep changing it to extend the time? And, practically, what would you say is the longest you would ever attempt?
(Of course, if your airline of choice does offer one-way flights at half the cost of round-trip this is really a moot point...but most don't seem to.)
So, does anyone know what the general rule of thumb is for award tickets? Is there an official maximum length, or can you keep changing it to extend the time? And, practically, what would you say is the longest you would ever attempt?
(Of course, if your airline of choice does offer one-way flights at half the cost of round-trip this is really a moot point...but most don't seem to.)
Nov 23, 2006 | 10:16 pm
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The rules are published on the airline's web sites. Typically, the return must be used within one year. You may be subject to fees if/when you change the return from the aforementioned 330 day mark to the 1 year mark.
Nov 23, 2006 | 10:17 pm
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1 year
Originally Posted by AsiaTraveler
I was recently considering the outside possibility of using FF miles for a longer trip- say for 6 months or more. But then I realized that I wasn't sure if FF tickets have a "maximum stay" requirement. I tried looking it up on UA & NW, but didn't really get anywhere. The closest I got was with UA, that both your dates have to be within the 330 day booking window. Of course, I've already read tons on FT about getting your first date put on hold and then adding dates later, etc, etc.
So, does anyone know what the general rule of thumb is for award tickets? Is there an official maximum length, or can you keep changing it to extend the time? And, practically, what would you say is the longest you would ever attempt?
(Of course, if your airline of choice does offer one-way flights at half the cost of round-trip this is really a moot point...but most don't seem to.)
So, does anyone know what the general rule of thumb is for award tickets? Is there an official maximum length, or can you keep changing it to extend the time? And, practically, what would you say is the longest you would ever attempt?
(Of course, if your airline of choice does offer one-way flights at half the cost of round-trip this is really a moot point...but most don't seem to.)
LH and UA have both 1year ticket validty, you can fly on 1.1.xxx and fly back the next year on 1.1.xxxx
dp
Nov 23, 2006 | 11:15 pm
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Originally Posted by AsiaTraveler
(Of course, if your airline of choice does offer one-way flights at half the cost of round-trip this is really a moot point...but most don't seem to.)
Nov 24, 2006 | 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by mbreuer
The rules are published on the airline's web sites. Typically, the return must be used within one year. You may be subject to fees if/when you change the return from the aforementioned 330 day mark to the 1 year mark.
Nov 24, 2006 | 9:20 am
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Originally Posted by AsiaTraveler
I obviously was not looking in the right place on the web sites, then. Can you point me in the right direction?
For example, plugging in ewr-lax (standard coach award), you get a link (before you purchase) with the compete rules for that itinerary:
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Sales and Restrictions FARE RULES TEXT SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. GENERAL RULES TEXT NOTE - EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. Refunds/Change FARE RULES TEXT CHANGES CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. NOTE - REROUTING MUST REMAIN WITHIN THE VALID REWARD TRAVEL AREA. INVOLUNTARY REROUTING WILL BE PERMITTED ONLY VIA THE SERVICES OF CO/COEX ONLY. 1. FEES FOR CHANGES /PER TRANSACTION-PNR/.... GOLD/SILVER ELITE - USD 35 NON-ELITE - USD 50 PLATINUM ELITE - FREE 2. THE FEE SHOWN ABOVE IS DETERMINED BASED ON ELITE STATUS OF THE ACCOUNT FROM WHICH THE REWARD WAS WITHDRAWN ON THE DAY THE CHANGE IS REQUESTED. 3. FEES SHOWN ABOVE ARE NON-REFUNDABLE AND MAY NOT BE USED AS CREDIT FOR FUTURE TRAVEL. 4. PSGRS HOLDING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS AND TICKETS MAY STANDBY FOR EARLIER/LATER SAME DAY NONSTOP AND/OR CONNECTING FLIGHT.S BETWEEN THE SAME ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AIRPORTS. A.UNLESS RESTRICTED BY THE REWARD USED-WHEN TICKETED FROM/TO CHI/HOU/NYC/WAS-THE PSGR MAY CHECK-IN AND STANDBY FROM/TO ONE OF THE AIRPORTS LISTED BELOW. CITY - AIRPORT ) CHI - MDW/ORD HOU - EFD/IAH NYC - JFK/LGA WAS - DCA/IAD APPLICABLE CHG FEE AND/OR NEW TICKET AS OUTLINED IN A AND B ABOVE WILL APPLY. B.AFTER EACH TICKETED DEPARTURE DATE NO STANDBY IS PERMITTED. 5. TICKET MUST BE REISSUED-CHANGE FEE AND ANY ADDITIONAL FARE MUST BE PAID AT THE TIME OF CHANGE. CANCELLATIONS CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED. NOTE - REDEPOSITS-- 1. WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS WHICH HAVE NOT EXPIRED MAY BE REDEPOSITED UPON PAYMENT OF-- /PER TRANSACTION-PNR/ GOLD/SILVER ELITE - USD 35 NON-ELITE - USD 50 PLATINUM ELITE - FREE 2. FEES SHOWN ABOVE ARE NON-REFUNDABLE AND MAY NOT BE USED AS CREDIT FOR FUTURE TRAVEL. 3. THE FEE SHOWN ABOVE IS DETERMINED BASED ON ELITE STATUS OF THE ACCOUNT FROM WHICH THE REWARD WAS WITHDRAWN ON THE DAY THE REDEPOSIT IS REQUESTED. 4. PARTIALLY USED OR EXPIRED TICKETS CANNOT BE REDEPOSITED HOWEVER TAXES CAN BE REFUNDED THROUGH NORMAL METHODS. GENERAL RULES TEXT CANCELLATIONS PER TICKET CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR LOST TICKET. NOTE - NO SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE IMPOSED FOR MILITARY PASSENGERS WHEN TRANSPORTATION IS PAID WITH A U.S. GOVERNMENT TRANSPORTATION REQUEST FORM NO. 1169. Minimum Stay FARE RULES TEXT RETURN TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. Maximum Stay FARE RULES TEXT TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. NOTE - CERTIFICATES/TICKETS ARE VALID FOR ONE YEAR FROM THE DATE THE REWARD IS ISSUED. ALL TRAVEL MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE EXPIRATION DATE NOTED ON THE REWARD CERTIFICATE/TICKET. Advance Purchase Requirement FARE RULES TEXT RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED. NOTE - RESERVATIONS FOR ALL PORTIONS OF THE JOURNEY MUST BE CONFIRMED BY THE CO REWARD DESK OR WEBSITE PRIOR TO DEPARTURE FROM ORIGIN. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY CO. A. THE FOLLOWING TICKETING FEES WILL APPLY-- TKTD /PER TRANSACTION-PNR/ ELITE NON-ELITE 3 DAYS OR LESS USD 50 USD 75 WITHIN 4-14 DAYS USD 35 USD 50 15 DAYS OR GREATER NO CHARGE NO CHARGE ATO/CTO PICKUP ANY TIME USD 100 USD 100 B. ADDITIONAL FEES FOR PAPER TKTS/CERTIFICATES-- -USD 50 / CAD 80 / GBP 30 FOR EACH PAPER TICKET/CERTIFICATE. -USD 10 TBM DELIVERY FEE FOR EACH PAPER TICKET TRANSACTION OR PAPER CERTIFICATE TRANSACTION ISSUED BY THE CO REWARD DESK. -USD 35 FEDEX DELIVERY FEE FOR EACH PAPER TICKET TRANSACTION OR PAPER CERTIFICATE TRANSACTION ISSUED BY THE CO REWARD DESK. C. ALL FEES SHOWN ABOVE ARE NON-REFUNDABLE AND MAY NOT BE USED AS CREDIT FOR FUTURE TRAVEL. ) GENERAL RULES TEXT NOTE - CO SAME DAY TRAVEL OPTIONS - AVAILABLE WHEN CHECKING IN AT AIRPORT KIOSKS. APPLIES TO OUTBOUND/CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS. . 1. SAME DAY STANDBY PERMITTED FOR EARLIER/LATER FLIGHT FOR NO FEE WHEN TRAVEL IS BETWEEN THE SAME ORIGIN/DESTINATION AND CONNECTION ARPTS. CO-TERMINAL STANDBY IS NOT PERMITTED. STANDBY PROCESSING WILL OCCUR WITHIN 3HOURS OF A PASSENGERS DESIRED FLIGHT. . 2. CONFIRM A SEAT ON AN ALTERNATE FLIGHT FOR A FEE OF 25.00USD FOR FLIGHTS DEPARTING WITHIN 3 HOURS OF CHECK-IN WHEN - A. THE SAME TICKETED INVENTORY CLASS IS AVAILABLE. B. TRAVEL IS BETWEEN THE SAME ORIGIN CITY AND DESTINATION CITY. C. NEW FLIGHTS AND ROUTING ARE PERMITTED PER THE FARE RULE. D. ALL TRAVEL IS ON- CO FLIGHTS 1-889 CO FLIGHTS 1000-1299 CO FLIGHTS 1400-1899 CO FLIGHTS 2000-3309 CO FLIGHTS 8635-8835 CO FLIGHTS 9126-9310 . 3. TO CONFIRM A SEAT ON A FLIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE 3 HOUR CONFIRMED SEAT PERIOD THE RULES OUTLINED IN THE PENALTY SECTION WILL APPLY . 4. CUSTOMERS STANDING BY FOR CO FLIGHTS OPERATED BY A PARTNER MAY BE ASSESSED A FEE. Day/Time Application NO RESTRICTIONS Seasonality APPLIES ALL YEAR Blackout Dates FARE RULES TEXT IF THE FARE COMPONENT IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AS FLIGHT CO FLIGHTS 8060 THROUGH 8218 OR IF THE FARE COMPONENT IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AS FLIGHT CO FLIGHTS 8060 THROUGH 8218 ) CONNECTING TO ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY CO FLIGHT ANY DL FLIGHT ANY NW FLIGHT OR IF THE FARE COMPONENT IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY CO FLIGHT ANY DL FLIGHT ANY NW FLIGHT CONNECTING TO ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AS FLIGHT CO FLIGHTS 8060 THROUGH 8218 TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED ON 23NOV 05 OR ON 27NOV 05 OR ON 23DEC 05 OR ON 26DEC 05. Combinability FARE RULES TEXT DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED. OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN SEGMENT. -TO FORM 2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ROUND TRIP -0 TYPE FARES OR ROUND TRIP FARE CLASS YSM FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN RULE 3020 IN TARIFF COEFR - BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES-CANADA DR01 - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES ) 3. THE FEE SHOWN ABOVE IS DETERMINED BASED ON ELITE STATUS OF THE ACCOUNT FROM WHICH THE REWARD WAS WITHDRAWN ON THE DAY THE REDEPOSIT IS REQUESTED. 4. PARTIALLY USED OR EXPIRED TICKETS CANNOT BE REDEPOSITED HOWEVER TAXES CAN BE REFUNDED THROUGH NORMAL METHODS. GENERAL RULES TEXT CANCELLATIONS PER TICKET CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR LOST TICKET. NOTE - NO SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE IMPOSED FOR MILITARY PASSENGERS WHEN TRANSPORTATION IS PAID WITH A U.S. GOVERNMENT TRANSPORTATION REQUEST FORM NO. 1169. CO.COMBINABILITY FARE RULES TEXT DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED. OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN SEGMENT. -TO FORM 2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ROUND TRIP -0 TYPE FARES OR ROUND TRIP FARE CLASS YSM FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN RULE 3020 IN TARIFF COEFR - BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES-CANADA DR01 - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES OR RULE OP00 IN TARIFF FBRNAPV - WITHIN NORTH AMERICA. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT- BWI-WAS FLL-MIA LAX-ONT LAX-SNA LAX-LGB LAX-BUR ONT-SNA ONT-LGB ONT-BUR SNA-LGB SNA-BUR LGB-BUR EWR-NYC SFO-SJC SFO-OAK SFO-SMF SJC-OAK SJC-SMF OAK-SMF HRL-MFE EWR-ISP NYC-ISP HDN-SBS HRL-BRO MFE-BRO HOU-IAH HOU-EFD IAH-EFD EWR-JFK JFK-ISP JFK-NYC Eligibility NO RESTRICTIONS Discounts Child Discounts DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY Tour Conductor DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY Agent Discounts DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY Other Discounts GENERAL RULES TEXT SENIOR CITIZEN - NO DISCOUNT. Surcharges DOES NOT APPLY Stopovers FARE RULES TEXT NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED. Flight Applications FARE RULES TEXT THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY VX FLIGHT ANY AF FLIGHT ANY AZ FLIGHT ANY BD FLIGHT ANY CI FLIGHT ANY BW FLIGHT ANY OK FLIGHT ANY BR FLIGHT ANY IB FLIGHT ANY MH FLIGHT ANY QF FLIGHT ANY OO FLIGHT ANY HA FLIGHT ANY KL FLIGHT ) ANY CM FLIGHT ANY UX FLIGHT ANY EK FLIGHT ANY F9 FLIGHT ANY HP FLIGHT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AS FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 1999 AS FLIGHTS 2850 THROUGH 2899 AS FLIGHTS 2940 THROUGH 6010 AS FLIGHTS 6750 THROUGH 7199 AS FLIGHTS 7500 THROUGH 7799 AS FLIGHTS 7900 THROUGH 8029 AS FLIGHTS 8061 THROUGH 8079 AS FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING DL FLIGHTS 1975 THROUGH 2099 DL FLIGHTS 2100 THROUGH 3662 DL FLIGHTS 5913 THROUGH 6057 DL FLIGHTS 6493 THROUGH 9124 DL FLIGHTS 9435 THROUGH 9444 DL FLIGHTS 9453 THROUGH 9454 DL FLIGHTS 9575 THROUGH 9579. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING NW FLIGHT 013 NW FLIGHTS 0900 THROUGH 0919 NW FLIGHTS 1330 THROUGH 1399 NW FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 2699 NW FLIGHTS 3800 THROUGH 4699 NW FLIGHTS 4800 THROUGH 5599 NW FLIGHTS 6000 THROUGH 9999. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS EUROPE. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS MEXICO. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS INTL. POINTS IN THE CARIBBEAN AREA. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS PUERTO RICO/US VIRGIN ISLANDS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS CENTRAL AMERICA. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS SOUTH AMERICA. AND ) THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS HAWAII. Fare Basis Code YSM/CS0M Sales and Restrictions FARE RULES TEXT SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. GENERAL RULES TEXT NOTE - EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. Refunds/Change FARE RULES TEXT CHANGES CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. NOTE - REROUTING MUST REMAIN WITHIN THE VALID REWARD TRAVEL AREA. INVOLUNTARY REROUTING WILL BE PERMITTED ONLY VIA THE SERVICES OF CO/COEX ONLY. 1. FEES FOR CHANGES /PER TRANSACTION-PNR/.... GOLD/SILVER ELITE - USD 35 NON-ELITE - USD 50 PLATINUM ELITE - FREE 2. THE FEE SHOWN ABOVE IS DETERMINED BASED ON ELITE STATUS OF THE ACCOUNT FROM WHICH THE REWARD WAS WITHDRAWN ON THE DAY THE CHANGE IS REQUESTED. 3. FEES SHOWN ABOVE ARE NON-REFUNDABLE AND MAY NOT BE USED AS CREDIT FOR FUTURE TRAVEL. 4. PSGRS HOLDING CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS AND TICKETS MAY STANDBY FOR EARLIER/LATER SAME DAY NONSTOP AND/OR CONNECTING FLIGHT.S BETWEEN THE SAME ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AIRPORTS. A.UNLESS RESTRICTED BY THE REWARD USED-WHEN TICKETED FROM/TO CHI/HOU/NYC/WAS-THE PSGR MAY CHECK-IN AND STANDBY FROM/TO ONE OF THE AIRPORTS LISTED BELOW. CITY - AIRPORT ) CHI - MDW/ORD HOU - EFD/IAH NYC - JFK/LGA WAS - DCA/IAD APPLICABLE CHG FEE AND/OR NEW TICKET AS OUTLINED IN A AND B ABOVE WILL APPLY. B.AFTER EACH TICKETED DEPARTURE DATE NO STANDBY IS PERMITTED. 5. TICKET MUST BE REISSUED-CHANGE FEE AND ANY ADDITIONAL FARE MUST BE PAID AT THE TIME OF CHANGE. CANCELLATIONS CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED. NOTE - REDEPOSITS-- 1. WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS WHICH HAVE NOT EXPIRED MAY BE REDEPOSITED UPON PAYMENT OF-- /PER TRANSACTION-PNR/ GOLD/SILVER ELITE - USD 35 NON-ELITE - USD 50 PLATINUM ELITE - FREE 2. FEES SHOWN ABOVE ARE NON-REFUNDABLE AND MAY NOT BE USED AS CREDIT FOR FUTURE TRAVEL. 3. THE FEE SHOWN ABOVE IS DETERMINED BASED ON ELITE STATUS OF THE ACCOUNT FROM WHICH THE REWARD WAS WITHDRAWN ON THE DAY THE REDEPOSIT IS REQUESTED. 4. PARTIALLY USED OR EXPIRED TICKETS CANNOT BE REDEPOSITED HOWEVER TAXES CAN BE REFUNDED THROUGH NORMAL METHODS. GENERAL RULES TEXT CANCELLATIONS PER TICKET CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR LOST TICKET. NOTE - NO SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE IMPOSED FOR MILITARY PASSENGERS WHEN TRANSPORTATION IS PAID WITH A U.S. GOVERNMENT TRANSPORTATION REQUEST FORM NO. 1169. Minimum Stay FARE RULES TEXT RETURN TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. Maximum Stay FARE RULES TEXT TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. NOTE - CERTIFICATES/TICKETS ARE VALID FOR ONE YEAR FROM THE DATE THE REWARD IS ISSUED. ALL TRAVEL MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE EXPIRATION DATE NOTED ON THE REWARD CERTIFICATE/TICKET. Advance Purchase Requirement FARE RULES TEXT RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED. NOTE - RESERVATIONS FOR ALL PORTIONS OF THE JOURNEY MUST BE CONFIRMED BY THE CO REWARD DESK OR WEBSITE PRIOR TO DEPARTURE FROM ORIGIN. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY CO. A. THE FOLLOWING TICKETING FEES WILL APPLY-- TKTD /PER TRANSACTION-PNR/ ELITE NON-ELITE 3 DAYS OR LESS USD 50 USD 75 WITHIN 4-14 DAYS USD 35 USD 50 15 DAYS OR GREATER NO CHARGE NO CHARGE ATO/CTO PICKUP ANY TIME USD 100 USD 100 B. ADDITIONAL FEES FOR PAPER TKTS/CERTIFICATES-- -USD 50 / CAD 80 / GBP 30 FOR EACH PAPER TICKET/CERTIFICATE. -USD 10 TBM DELIVERY FEE FOR EACH PAPER TICKET TRANSACTION OR PAPER CERTIFICATE TRANSACTION ISSUED BY THE CO REWARD DESK. -USD 35 FEDEX DELIVERY FEE FOR EACH PAPER TICKET TRANSACTION OR PAPER CERTIFICATE TRANSACTION ISSUED BY THE CO REWARD DESK. C. ALL FEES SHOWN ABOVE ARE NON-REFUNDABLE AND MAY NOT BE USED AS CREDIT FOR FUTURE TRAVEL. ) GENERAL RULES TEXT NOTE - CO SAME DAY TRAVEL OPTIONS - AVAILABLE WHEN CHECKING IN AT AIRPORT KIOSKS. APPLIES TO OUTBOUND/CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS. . 1. SAME DAY STANDBY PERMITTED FOR EARLIER/LATER FLIGHT FOR NO FEE WHEN TRAVEL IS BETWEEN THE SAME ORIGIN/DESTINATION AND CONNECTION ARPTS. CO-TERMINAL STANDBY IS NOT PERMITTED. STANDBY PROCESSING WILL OCCUR WITHIN 3HOURS OF A PASSENGERS DESIRED FLIGHT. . 2. CONFIRM A SEAT ON AN ALTERNATE FLIGHT FOR A FEE OF 25.00USD FOR FLIGHTS DEPARTING WITHIN 3 HOURS OF CHECK-IN WHEN - A. THE SAME TICKETED INVENTORY CLASS IS AVAILABLE. B. TRAVEL IS BETWEEN THE SAME ORIGIN CITY AND DESTINATION CITY. C. NEW FLIGHTS AND ROUTING ARE PERMITTED PER THE FARE RULE. D. ALL TRAVEL IS ON- CO FLIGHTS 1-889 CO FLIGHTS 1000-1299 CO FLIGHTS 1400-1899 CO FLIGHTS 2000-3309 CO FLIGHTS 8635-8835 CO FLIGHTS 9126-9310 . 3. TO CONFIRM A SEAT ON A FLIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE 3 HOUR CONFIRMED SEAT PERIOD THE RULES OUTLINED IN THE PENALTY SECTION WILL APPLY . 4. CUSTOMERS STANDING BY FOR CO FLIGHTS OPERATED BY A PARTNER MAY BE ASSESSED A FEE. Day/Time Application NO RESTRICTIONS Seasonality APPLIES ALL YEAR Blackout Dates FARE RULES TEXT IF THE FARE COMPONENT IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AS FLIGHT CO FLIGHTS 8060 THROUGH 8218 OR IF THE FARE COMPONENT IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AS FLIGHT CO FLIGHTS 8060 THROUGH 8218 ) CONNECTING TO ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY CO FLIGHT ANY DL FLIGHT ANY NW FLIGHT OR IF THE FARE COMPONENT IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY CO FLIGHT ANY DL FLIGHT ANY NW FLIGHT CONNECTING TO ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AS FLIGHT CO FLIGHTS 8060 THROUGH 8218 TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED ON 23NOV 05 OR ON 27NOV 05 OR ON 23DEC 05 OR ON 26DEC 05. Combinability FARE RULES TEXT DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED. OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN SEGMENT. -TO FORM 2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ROUND TRIP -0 TYPE FARES OR ROUND TRIP FARE CLASS YSM FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN RULE 3020 IN TARIFF COEFR - BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES-CANADA DR01 - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES ) 3. THE FEE SHOWN ABOVE IS DETERMINED BASED ON ELITE STATUS OF THE ACCOUNT FROM WHICH THE REWARD WAS WITHDRAWN ON THE DAY THE REDEPOSIT IS REQUESTED. 4. PARTIALLY USED OR EXPIRED TICKETS CANNOT BE REDEPOSITED HOWEVER TAXES CAN BE REFUNDED THROUGH NORMAL METHODS. GENERAL RULES TEXT CANCELLATIONS PER TICKET CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR LOST TICKET. NOTE - NO SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE IMPOSED FOR MILITARY PASSENGERS WHEN TRANSPORTATION IS PAID WITH A U.S. GOVERNMENT TRANSPORTATION REQUEST FORM NO. 1169. CO.COMBINABILITY FARE RULES TEXT DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED. OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN SEGMENT. -TO FORM 2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ROUND TRIP -0 TYPE FARES OR ROUND TRIP FARE CLASS YSM FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN RULE 3020 IN TARIFF COEFR - BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES-CANADA DR01 - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES OR RULE OP00 IN TARIFF FBRNAPV - WITHIN NORTH AMERICA. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT- BWI-WAS FLL-MIA LAX-ONT LAX-SNA LAX-LGB LAX-BUR ONT-SNA ONT-LGB ONT-BUR SNA-LGB SNA-BUR LGB-BUR EWR-NYC SFO-SJC SFO-OAK SFO-SMF SJC-OAK SJC-SMF OAK-SMF HRL-MFE EWR-ISP NYC-ISP HDN-SBS HRL-BRO MFE-BRO HOU-IAH HOU-EFD IAH-EFD EWR-JFK JFK-ISP JFK-NYC Eligibility NO RESTRICTIONS Discounts Child Discounts DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY Tour Conductor DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY Agent Discounts DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY Other Discounts GENERAL RULES TEXT SENIOR CITIZEN - NO DISCOUNT. Surcharges DOES NOT APPLY Stopovers FARE RULES TEXT NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED. Flight Applications FARE RULES TEXT THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY VX FLIGHT ANY AF FLIGHT ANY AZ FLIGHT ANY BD FLIGHT ANY CI FLIGHT ANY BW FLIGHT ANY OK FLIGHT ANY BR FLIGHT ANY IB FLIGHT ANY MH FLIGHT ANY QF FLIGHT ANY OO FLIGHT ANY HA FLIGHT ANY KL FLIGHT ) ANY CM FLIGHT ANY UX FLIGHT ANY EK FLIGHT ANY F9 FLIGHT ANY HP FLIGHT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AS FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 1999 AS FLIGHTS 2850 THROUGH 2899 AS FLIGHTS 2940 THROUGH 6010 AS FLIGHTS 6750 THROUGH 7199 AS FLIGHTS 7500 THROUGH 7799 AS FLIGHTS 7900 THROUGH 8029 AS FLIGHTS 8061 THROUGH 8079 AS FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING DL FLIGHTS 1975 THROUGH 2099 DL FLIGHTS 2100 THROUGH 3662 DL FLIGHTS 5913 THROUGH 6057 DL FLIGHTS 6493 THROUGH 9124 DL FLIGHTS 9435 THROUGH 9444 DL FLIGHTS 9453 THROUGH 9454 DL FLIGHTS 9575 THROUGH 9579. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING NW FLIGHT 013 NW FLIGHTS 0900 THROUGH 0919 NW FLIGHTS 1330 THROUGH 1399 NW FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 2699 NW FLIGHTS 3800 THROUGH 4699 NW FLIGHTS 4800 THROUGH 5599 NW FLIGHTS 6000 THROUGH 9999. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS EUROPE. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS MEXICO. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS INTL. POINTS IN THE CARIBBEAN AREA. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS PUERTO RICO/US VIRGIN ISLANDS. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS CENTRAL AMERICA. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS SOUTH AMERICA. AND ) THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TICKETED POINTS HAWAII.
Nov 24, 2006 | 9:48 am
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On AA, it's valid for 1 year from date of booking, not date of outbound. So that becomes an issue if the route you want is one of those that needs to be booked well in advance to secure the seats.
Nov 24, 2006 | 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by swag
On AA, it's valid for 1 year from date of booking, not date of outbound. So that becomes an issue if the route you want is one of those that needs to be booked well in advance to secure the seats.
[CODE]Maximum Stay FARE RULES TEXT
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
NOTE -
CERTIFICATES/TICKETS ARE VALID FOR ONE YEAR
FROM THE DATE THE REWARD IS ISSUED.
ALL TRAVEL MUST BE COMPLETED BY THE
EXPIRATION DATE NOTED ON THE REWARD
CERTIFICATE/TICKET.[CODE]
So, it's possible that you must complete the journey within one year from ticket issue... or perhaps the maximum stay rule applies, which would seem to allow outbound travel up to 1 year from issue, and the return commence 1 year from the outbound. Perhaps someone more versed in the rules can weigh in.
Nov 27, 2006 | 7:24 am
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Location: Manasquan, NJ
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While things may have changed since we did it, we took a year-long reward trip three years ago, booked on CO miles with NW and KLM flts. We flew the first half in July 2002 (EWR-AMS-JNB) and continued on a OW RTW from there. Our RTW ended in CPT in July 2003, where we returned home on the original reward ticket. We were even able to change the date of our return flts after the first segments were flown. The whole thing was booked in maybe Jan/Feb 2002, at the 200,000 mile Easypass level.
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