best/worst FF awards?
#31

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by lalala:
I really liked the AS 110K or 120K award for two RT J tickets on QF. We redeemed our award in 1999, booked in 2000 and flew in 2001.
Sea-lax-akl-mel-syd-lax-sea all in J
The rest we did with little hopper awards and domestic NZ and Australian tickets.
outstanding value and sorry to see it gone.
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I really liked the AS 110K or 120K award for two RT J tickets on QF. We redeemed our award in 1999, booked in 2000 and flew in 2001.
Sea-lax-akl-mel-syd-lax-sea all in J

The rest we did with little hopper awards and domestic NZ and Australian tickets.
outstanding value and sorry to see it gone.
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Dan
#33
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I vote for AA's 15K one-way domestic upgrade. Confirmable in advance, applies to any published fare...even the $308 RT HNL-DCA web special I booked in January and used last week, earning (with Plat bonuses) more miles than I used for the upgrade...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Lokahi:
I vote for AA's 15K one-way domestic upgrade. Confirmable in advance, applies to any published fare...even the $308 RT HNL-DCA web special I booked in January and used last week, earning (with Plat bonuses) more miles than I used for the upgrade...</font>
I vote for AA's 15K one-way domestic upgrade. Confirmable in advance, applies to any published fare...even the $308 RT HNL-DCA web special I booked in January and used last week, earning (with Plat bonuses) more miles than I used for the upgrade...</font>
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What about AS 15k award AS50. For 15,000 miles you get half off of any fare, plus you get the miles. Some flights will earn you enough miles that you come out even or ahead. If you are MVP Gold you will often be able to use this just buy tickets at 1/2 price.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by broadwayblue:
can i find more info on that AA deal on their website? are you referring to the standard 30k reward? you get a stopover and and open jaw?
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can i find more info on that AA deal on their website? are you referring to the standard 30k reward? you get a stopover and and open jaw?
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Yes, I am referring to the standard 30K=Y or 60K=J/F.
AWARD 1: PIT-CUN-ORD-YYC
AWARD 2: YYC-CLE-ST. MAARTEN-YUL
VOILA! 3 vacations for 2 awards + a purchased ticket ORD-home + a train ride OW from Montreal or Quebec City.

#38
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I think I've found the least bang for the points. You can burn up 7,500 of your precious Starpoints to get a non-stop bus-ride from Incheon Airport to Westin in Seoul, Korea. If you rather pay the fare in cash, it's about $7.70. That's about 0.001 USD per one Starpoint. Duh~
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Normally, I would consider a long-haul F award to represent great overall value: the extravigant luxury of international F sleeper seats/beds, superb catering and wines, unsurpassed levels of services, lounges, etc. I have used several when the Canadian Plus program offered BA First between Canada and SouthAfrica for a mere 125,000 points. I believe AA offers a similar award at 140,000 on BA, and via the Pacific on CX. Two overnights, a day in London or Hong Kong, and one's very distant destination.
The cash value of the foregoing awards can approach US$10,000 or more.
As much as I have tried I have never been able to book the UA intra-Asia awards, where I think the 40,000 for First Class between SIN or BKK and NRT, onward to HKG would be a great indulgence for a pampered day of flying in each direction.
Under normal circumstances, a simple domestic award within one's home territory would be the worst way of spending one's miles, but some times this can be a very good deal if it is at the last minute.
As noted in an earlier post, AC offers a short-haul Y award within Canada or transborder to the US for 15,000 year around, and 12,000 in some periods of the year. If one must make a last minute trip, and cannot get an advance booking ticket at $200 to $300, then such an award represents a very good bargain compared to the fare of $1,500 that could go with even such a short trip. [And in comparsion with the cost of the long-haul award noted, represents $15,000 or more of flying value.]
The ability of some elite tier programs to access award seats out of paid inventory on short notice, at any time, is certainly a major value added feature of a program. Particularly if one does not have to "pay" a 50% or 100% premium over regular awards to do it.
The cash value of the foregoing awards can approach US$10,000 or more.
As much as I have tried I have never been able to book the UA intra-Asia awards, where I think the 40,000 for First Class between SIN or BKK and NRT, onward to HKG would be a great indulgence for a pampered day of flying in each direction.
Under normal circumstances, a simple domestic award within one's home territory would be the worst way of spending one's miles, but some times this can be a very good deal if it is at the last minute.
As noted in an earlier post, AC offers a short-haul Y award within Canada or transborder to the US for 15,000 year around, and 12,000 in some periods of the year. If one must make a last minute trip, and cannot get an advance booking ticket at $200 to $300, then such an award represents a very good bargain compared to the fare of $1,500 that could go with even such a short trip. [And in comparsion with the cost of the long-haul award noted, represents $15,000 or more of flying value.]
The ability of some elite tier programs to access award seats out of paid inventory on short notice, at any time, is certainly a major value added feature of a program. Particularly if one does not have to "pay" a 50% or 100% premium over regular awards to do it.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Yongs:
I think I've found the least bang for the points. You can burn up 7,500 of your precious Starpoints to get a non-stop bus-ride from Incheon Airport to Westin in Seoul, Korea. If you rather pay the fare in cash, it's about $7.70. That's about 0.001 USD per one Starpoint. Duh~
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I think I've found the least bang for the points. You can burn up 7,500 of your precious Starpoints to get a non-stop bus-ride from Incheon Airport to Westin in Seoul, Korea. If you rather pay the fare in cash, it's about $7.70. That's about 0.001 USD per one Starpoint. Duh~
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#41
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Looks like USAirways has a new award that will put you in orbit.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020311/dcm019_1.html
Jay
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020311/dcm019_1.html
Jay
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I don't think necessarily that the best award is what would cost the most- really now- how many people would really buy a RT in F from N AMerica to Africa for $10,000! WHy not buy a RTW?? I think the value of the miles you redeem is at the point where you would prefer to use miles opposed to buying a flight. Ex, if you'd BUY a flight from JFK-LHR in F for $1,500, but would spend 100k in miles if it was $1,501- then those 100k in miles are worth $1500 to YOU. Therefore that trip your miles are worth 1.5 cents each- though it may vary from time to time depending on your disposable income.. Just my 1.5 cents worth
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by dominick:
I don't think necessarily that the best award is what would cost the most- really now- how many people would really buy a RT in F from N AMerica to Africa for $10,000! WHy not buy a RTW?? I think the value of the miles you redeem is at the point where you would prefer to use miles opposed to buying a flight. Ex, if you'd BUY a flight from JFK-LHR in F for $1,500, but would spend 100k in miles if it was $1,501- then those 100k in miles are worth $1500 to YOU. Therefore that trip your miles are worth 1.5 cents each- though it may vary from time to time depending on your disposable income.. Just my 1.5 cents worth</font>
I don't think necessarily that the best award is what would cost the most- really now- how many people would really buy a RT in F from N AMerica to Africa for $10,000! WHy not buy a RTW?? I think the value of the miles you redeem is at the point where you would prefer to use miles opposed to buying a flight. Ex, if you'd BUY a flight from JFK-LHR in F for $1,500, but would spend 100k in miles if it was $1,501- then those 100k in miles are worth $1500 to YOU. Therefore that trip your miles are worth 1.5 cents each- though it may vary from time to time depending on your disposable income.. Just my 1.5 cents worth</font>
I like this thread because people are posting their favorite awards from the various programs, even if they don't get into detail about value-per-mile. A lot of these international awards are very interesting, and I had no idea they existed...
#45

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Executive Club joint BA/AA awards are usually a pretty good deal, 150k miles for USA to South Africa on Concorde/First with connecting to/from JFK on AA, with open-jaw in Africa. 125k miles in First and less flying time than via HKG (140k w/ CX).


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