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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by dgordon
It would seem that a good strategy if you no longer wanted a card with a fee is to convert it to a product that doesn't have a fee. That way you have unused available credit, history on that credit card, which can help your score. Then put it in a drawer and don't use - it might even have a balance transfer offer that might come in handy.
Somebody, please point out if my reasoning has some flaws.
Some experts advise that you use all your credit cards at least once a year so that they appear as active, on the belief that inactive accounts do not help your score. Of course, FairIssac and the other scoring systems won't divulge their formula's, so it's all a guess. But it can't hurt to use each card once a year, so long as you don't forget to pay the bill (I have all of mine set up for automatic payment through online banking).
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by burgerwars
Too add, I applied for one Visa card last month, and was approved for a $15K credit line. I have a high FICO score (excess of 800) on my Experian record. The inquiry hit my Experian account, and my FICO went down four points. Negligible. Even though inquires stay for two years, I believe only inquiries that are less than one year old (it may be as low as six months), do ding your credit record.
When the credit line appeared on my credit record, my FICO didn't budge. It stayed four points lower.
That's my experience, but YMMV.
1)your credit score and FICO score are two different things.

2)If your FICO (as you state) is in excess of 800 any credit card company will instantly approve you for at least 50 grand credit line (usually well into 6 figures)... $15 credit line with an 800+ FICO doesnt add up.
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 6:54 pm
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Well, Suze Orman says it's OK, as long as you resist the temptation to rack up debt on them all. I have a couple of cards I got just to take advantage of the 0% interest on transfers, using that to pay off a car loan and beat the interest. I haven't cancelled them yet because Suze says having that open credit actually helps your credit score.
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 7:28 pm
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Originally Posted by psyflyer
2)If your FICO (as you state) is in excess of 800 any credit card company will instantly approve you for at least 50 grand credit line (usually well into 6 figures)... $15 credit line with an 800+ FICO doesnt add up.
That's not necessarily true. One can have a high FICO score without having a huge income. A credit card company looks at income when determining credit lines. I think that you're right than most credit card companies will give a card to anyone with an 800+ FICO score, but the amount of the line of credit may not be so gigantic as you imagine.
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 9:34 pm
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Originally Posted by dgordon
It would seem that a good strategy if you no longer wanted a card with a fee is to convert it to a product that doesn't have a fee. That way you have unused available credit, history on that credit card, which can help your score. Then put it in a drawer and don't use - it might even have a balance transfer offer that might come in handy.
Somebody, please point out if my reasoning has some flaws.
I am curious about this--- when you convert a card to a no-fee card or something, does that not report as closing one card and opening another? Or do they do it through the same account (thus your history and # of accounts remains the same)?

Also-- does canceling a card hurt you for any other reason than lowering your amount of available credit and possibly shortening your overall credit history length? (which would not be the case if it was your newest care-- it might theoretically help?)
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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 9:44 pm
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Originally Posted by babaamit
when you convert a card to a no-fee card or something, does that not report as closing one card and opening another? Or do they do it through the same account (thus your history and # of accounts remains the same)?
I think this depends on the card issuer. I've had it happen both ways.

Also-- does canceling a card hurt you for any other reason than lowering your amount of available credit and possibly shortening your overall credit history length?
I think those are the two main effects. However, the exact formula is not released, so it's hard to know exactly.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 5:21 pm
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Any resource which outlines which companies report which way?--- I would rather not rely on what a CSR tells me
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 7:08 pm
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Originally Posted by soitgoes
That's not necessarily true. One can have a high FICO score without having a huge income. A credit card company looks at income when determining credit lines. I think that you're right than most credit card companies will give a card to anyone with an 800+ FICO score, but the amount of the line of credit may not be so gigantic as you imagine.
yes it is. to begin with, FICO scores DO NOT know how much money you make or whom do you work for. Your CREDIT SCORE might be alerted whom do you work for from the agencies but not if you make minimum wage or 50mm/yr. The way FICO scores calculate your income varies, however it all begins with what your lender is willing to lend YOU (i.e. credit line). So if your have a 6 figure credit line w/ 1 CC company, what do you think other CC co's are willing to lend you? at least 6 figures and probably more bcs they want to compete for your business.

Case in point: Since joining FT ive opened +/- 6 cards STRICTLY for sign-up points... they all matched my highest long standing CC credit line. AND, when SPG AMEX saw I was serious, gave me a call and TRIPLED my line... all i had to do is spend a few grand a day for a couple of months and pay the bill in full... voila'
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