Why Separate The Laptop From The Bag
Jan 23, 2002 | 2:24 pm
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Why Separate The Laptop From The Bag
Can anyone tell me the reason why we have to take the laptop out of the bag before it goes through the Xray machine? What can they see with it out of the bag that they can't see with it in the bag?
During the Gulf War when security was tightened, I understood. The actually made you turn it on to see that it was a working device and not something that looked like a laptop and was filled with C4 or something. They don't have you turn them on now.
When I asked a security agent why we do this, his answer....because we were told to. They don't know either.
During the Gulf War when security was tightened, I understood. The actually made you turn it on to see that it was a working device and not something that looked like a laptop and was filled with C4 or something. They don't have you turn them on now.
When I asked a security agent why we do this, his answer....because we were told to. They don't know either.
Jan 23, 2002 | 2:39 pm
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Monty,
I too have the same question. I just came through the US on an RTW (1st time in the US post 911) and was asked at every US airport to remove my laptop from my bag for x-ray. This has not happened anywhere else in my travels in Europe and Asia. I could speculate though that a laptop could shield or confuse imaging of other devices in the same bag.
I too have the same question. I just came through the US on an RTW (1st time in the US post 911) and was asked at every US airport to remove my laptop from my bag for x-ray. This has not happened anywhere else in my travels in Europe and Asia. I could speculate though that a laptop could shield or confuse imaging of other devices in the same bag.
Jan 23, 2002 | 2:57 pm
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I've had to take mine out of the bag AND turn it on for the curious screeners. Taking it out of the bag (I've been told) minimizes the chance that you'll have knives, etc. under the laptop which would help shield the offending items on the x-ray. I just wish the screeners would stop yelling at me to take it out of the bag the way the customs goons yell at me how to stand in line at the San Ysidro pedestrian crossing. Look, I'm an American citizen -- Stop yelling at me.
Jan 23, 2002 | 3:04 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by FWAAA:
Look, I'm an American citizen -- Stop yelling at me.</font>
Look, I'm an American citizen -- Stop yelling at me.</font>
Jan 23, 2002 | 3:07 pm
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My personal theory is that is slows down the line so they don't have to work as hard 
One of these days I'd like to walk thru wearing only a jockstrap and see if I get picked for a random wand search.
I am in sales and often carry various sorts of non-computer related electronics on the plane. Same old story, I take it out of the bag, put it in the machine, the belt stops, someone says "bag check", it comes out, they take it to another table, call over a supervisor and all stare at it like cavemen who just discovered fire.
Then they ask me "what is it", I tell them, they don't understand, they say "turn it on", I do, they say "OK."
One of these days I'd like to walk thru wearing only a jockstrap and see if I get picked for a random wand search.
I am in sales and often carry various sorts of non-computer related electronics on the plane. Same old story, I take it out of the bag, put it in the machine, the belt stops, someone says "bag check", it comes out, they take it to another table, call over a supervisor and all stare at it like cavemen who just discovered fire.
Then they ask me "what is it", I tell them, they don't understand, they say "turn it on", I do, they say "OK."
Jan 23, 2002 | 3:12 pm
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Supposedly you can easily hide things in the bag with a laptop. One story I heard (elsewhere here on FT) was that they demonstrated hiding a .45 caliber pistol (not a small gun) in the laptop bag and there was no way to spot the pistol in the x-ray machine with the laptop in the same bag because it obscured the picture so much.
Jan 23, 2002 | 4:05 pm
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I would guess it relates to what they can see and not see. Now they have better view of the wires, cords, adapters, power bricks, palm pilots, cell phones, pens, etc. How the heck do they have any idea what they are looking at?
But somehow, they do seem to find those nail clippers, at least 30% of the time based on my experience.
Jan 23, 2002 | 7:39 pm
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One problem I have with this is when they decide to back the belt up to get a better wiew, they might cause a heavier item on the belt to fall back onto your fragile exposed
laptop. I just missed this happening to me by whisker, everybody at the station was busy looking at something on the screen as they ran the belt back and forth a few times and my notebook got wedged under a huge rollaboard one more back up and I am sure I would have it now hanging in a picture frame.
Mike
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laptop. I just missed this happening to me by whisker, everybody at the station was busy looking at something on the screen as they ran the belt back and forth a few times and my notebook got wedged under a huge rollaboard one more back up and I am sure I would have it now hanging in a picture frame.
Mike
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Jan 23, 2002 | 8:57 pm
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Let me ask a question on this topic. I just got my new laptop and will take it on a few upcoming trips. When you run it through x-ray are you just putting it on the belt or in the plastic trays? The reason for the question is I have seen too many come rolling down the rollers, damaging the bottom and banging into luggage.
Jan 23, 2002 | 9:02 pm
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at EWR I was asked to do the same last week , but did not have to do so Sept. 23
so this took Me by surprise I took it out of my Lowepro Stealth back pack leaving it in the seperate cushioned enclosure to go thru the xray ..and he said no take it out ...I said You mean NAKED...after his brief smile He said yes naked....My naked Thinkpad on the roolers...errr
so this took Me by surprise I took it out of my Lowepro Stealth back pack leaving it in the seperate cushioned enclosure to go thru the xray ..and he said no take it out ...I said You mean NAKED...after his brief smile He said yes naked....My naked Thinkpad on the roolers...errr
Jan 23, 2002 | 9:24 pm
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Its actually very easy to hide a weapon in a laptop even if you have to turn it on. You can just slip out the removable drive, and fill it with a gun or knife or bomb, then but a plastic cover over the removable drive to make it look normal. You can then switch it on and it will appear to be a normal computer. It really amazes me how easy it is to bypass any sort of security that they come up with. Even a young child can figure ways through the system.
Jan 23, 2002 | 11:39 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by newself:
Let me ask a question on this topic. I just got my new laptop and will take it on a few upcoming trips. When you run it through x-ray are you just putting it on the belt or in the plastic trays?</font>
Let me ask a question on this topic. I just got my new laptop and will take it on a few upcoming trips. When you run it through x-ray are you just putting it on the belt or in the plastic trays?</font>
Jan 23, 2002 | 11:45 pm
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I believe the answer lies in that some types of batteries, especially if you have two bays full of them, would block the view of any item of similar composition below it. Meaning, if your laptop is lying flat on your bag, which is also flat, and a nice slim long knife is taped to the bottom of the laptop, they can't see it. Whereas, if you put it in the tub, well, they can see it. Just my $.02.