How do we fire Mineta?
Nov 18, 2001 | 10:22 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by VicOsaki:
As for the virtues of European airport security, remember that European countries have only a handful of airports at most, not the thousand as we have here, each feeding into others.
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As for the virtues of European airport security, remember that European countries have only a handful of airports at most, not the thousand as we have here, each feeding into others.
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When you design a system properly, it will not matter how big it is, scale is secondary.
And you won't get into the secure area of an airport in Germany by running through an unguarded exit, by the way.
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Nov 18, 2001 | 10:46 am
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Isn't it self evident that anything that grows larger and more diverse becomes more complex and difficult to manage?
More to the point, we have a large number of small airports that may service a couple of flights each day. Security people at these airports will by definition be less trained and a more diverse group, yet the passengers from these airports will be delivered and will blend into the secured areas of major airports. This is just one example of a problem that the Europeans don't face.
If you have all your eggs in one basket, it's obviously easier to keep an eye on them.
More to the point, we have a large number of small airports that may service a couple of flights each day. Security people at these airports will by definition be less trained and a more diverse group, yet the passengers from these airports will be delivered and will blend into the secured areas of major airports. This is just one example of a problem that the Europeans don't face.
If you have all your eggs in one basket, it's obviously easier to keep an eye on them.
Nov 18, 2001 | 11:12 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by benoit:
What is your complaint with him specifically?</font>
What is your complaint with him specifically?</font>
I don't mean on 9-11; I mean all the information that came to light about how security was run at airports under his watch.
A CFO will go down if it's found that the books were cooked and therefore failed on his duty to shareholders. Mineta should go on the same basis.
Nov 18, 2001 | 11:34 pm
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How long had it been between when he was confirmed and the islamic terrorist attacks? Did he make some bad change, or was it just that he didn't change things in time on his watch? Did he have the power to make necessary changes? I don't understand if there is something specific he did that upsets you.
Nov 19, 2001 | 9:29 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by hillrider:
Failed the Citizens of the United States in his duty of overseeing security at the airports.</font>
Failed the Citizens of the United States in his duty of overseeing security at the airports.</font>
Nov 19, 2001 | 9:56 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by hillrider:
...I don't mean on 9-11; I mean all the information that came to light about how security was run at airports under his watch.
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...I don't mean on 9-11; I mean all the information that came to light about how security was run at airports under his watch.
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Nov 19, 2001 | 9:34 pm
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Scotty00 has the right idea-look to Congress and not just Mineta.
However, in this case it is a distiction without a difference. Mineta was on the House Transportation Committee for 21 years and was Chairman for eight years prior to his being named Transportation Secretary.
I strongly believe that members of Congress who have been on the various intelligence committees should resign and give others a chance. Will others do better? I don't know but they can't do worse and at least we won't have incumbents justifying their ineffective efforts of the past.
However, in this case it is a distiction without a difference. Mineta was on the House Transportation Committee for 21 years and was Chairman for eight years prior to his being named Transportation Secretary.
I strongly believe that members of Congress who have been on the various intelligence committees should resign and give others a chance. Will others do better? I don't know but they can't do worse and at least we won't have incumbents justifying their ineffective efforts of the past.
Nov 19, 2001 | 10:50 pm
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Get real everybody.
If we really want to be safe at the airports and in the skies, we need the US Military to do the job right.
An added benefit...it could even reduce unemployment; just think, the Army might actually be able to meet it's enlistment quota. And it really will be safer, because the security people will be trained and totally focused on their jobs. The US is behind the rest of the world here.
If we really want to be safe at the airports and in the skies, we need the US Military to do the job right.
An added benefit...it could even reduce unemployment; just think, the Army might actually be able to meet it's enlistment quota. And it really will be safer, because the security people will be trained and totally focused on their jobs. The US is behind the rest of the world here.