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Old May 15, 2001 | 2:25 pm
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What did happen to Voice Net? Are they really out of business? I tried using them last night and the 800 number was not working.
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Old May 15, 2001 | 4:03 pm
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Echelon, are local, non-surcharged, access numbers provided for overseas use of the TTI National Card? Overseas, can the card be used country-to-country, or just back to US? Also, the website is a bit light on details. For example, I didn't see what the pricing structure was for overseas use.
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Old May 16, 2001 | 7:50 am
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e-mail me and I will tell you about a phone card that is 3.9cents 24hrs/day.
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Old May 16, 2001 | 8:03 am
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Costco and Sam's have really cheap rates, but everytime I turn around they're raising the per unit charge for accessing their lines via a public phone. Presently, I think it's at six units just to connect.
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Old May 16, 2001 | 8:16 am
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Originally posted by tvl4free:
Costco and Sam's have really cheap rates, but everytime I turn around they're raising the per unit charge for accessing their lines via a public phone. Presently, I think it's at six units just to connect.
Individual carriers charge a access fee when you connect from payphones because the FCC started allowing the Bell companies to charge a connection fee back to the carrier that actually connects the call. No one will ever get me to believe that it costs 20-some cents, in some cases, to connect a call, but that's what the likes of Bellsouth, et al charge the companies connecting the call.
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Old May 16, 2001 | 8:45 am
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Yes. If you use a pay phone alot, the connect charges (units) eat up the card really, really quickly.

Check out this charge for your particular card, as its not just the per minute rate that is important!
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Old May 16, 2001 | 10:53 am
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The reason the units required is going up is that the price per unit is going down. When I bought my Sam's Card a year ago the price per minute was 5.9 cents it is now much lower. AT&T has to pay the owner of the payphone 50 cents for your use of the payphone. Even with this high charge the profitability of pay phones is decreasing and some people say the pay phone is becoming extinct due to cell phones. I don't have a cell phone, and hopefully won't ever.

Secondly, You can have a friend buy the card for you at Sam's and then anyone can renew a card with a credit card. The best news is you can re-charge your AT&T card with Diner's!!
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Old May 16, 2001 | 5:34 pm
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Originally posted by pactab:
e-mail me and I will tell you about a phone card that is 3.9cents 24hrs/day.

No need to e-mail this person. The 3.9 cents per minute card is from http://www.bigzoo.com and the montly fee is 75 cents.

There is a better deal though. As stated above, the card from http://www.onesuite.com is an even better 2.9 cents per minute and has NO fee. Plus, the onesuite card works better, you never get busy signals like BigZoo. I love it, it's a great card!

The those who don't like pre-paid, echelon is right, the ITT card is the best. Get it through the American Travel Network for the best deal.

For a comprehensive phone card comparison, go to http://www.clarkhoward.com

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Old May 16, 2001 | 5:36 pm
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Originally posted by pactab:
e-mail me and I will tell you about a phone card that is 3.9cents 24hrs/day.

No need to e-mail this person. The 3.9 cents per minute card is from http://www.bigzoo.com and the montly fee is 75 cents.

There is a better deal though. As stated above, the card from http://www.onesuite.com is an even better 2.9 cents per minute and has NO fee. Plus, the onesuite card works better, you never get busy signals like BigZoo. I love it, it's a great card!

The those who don't like pre-paid, echelon is right, the ITT card is the best. Get it through the American Travel Network for the best deal.

For a comprehensive phone card comparison, go to http://www.clarkhoward.com

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Old May 16, 2001 | 5:45 pm
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And with that accidental duplicate posting, I am now officially a FT Evangelist.

Hallelujah!

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Old May 16, 2001 | 7:51 pm
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Originally posted by macbravery:

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There is a better deal though. As stated above, the card from http://www.onesuite.com is an even better 2.9 cents per minute and has NO fee. Plus, the onesuite card works better, you never get busy signals like BigZoo. I love it, it's a great card!
I agree. Onesuite is reliable and has good (but not excellent) voice quality. It is easy to recharge and has real-time account access so you can check right away how much that last call to Timbuktu cost you.

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Old May 16, 2001 | 11:23 pm
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true...but I just read in the FAQ that there is a .55 access charge from hotel phones....no good for me...
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Old May 17, 2001 | 3:44 am
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I've been using a card (not prepaid, an account) from TTI National for several years, though I noticed that the rate I pay is about 1 cent more per minute than the link, so my rates are a little different than the one for the ttinational link posted above.

What's really funny is that they will literally send me a 6 page paper phone bill for 31 cents. The best thing about this card .. there are no monthly fees and no ridiculous surcharges. There are taxes and there's a small surcharge for using a pay phone. There's certainly no charge for using a hotel phone, because I do that all the time.

TTI National is actually owned by Worldcom now. Last time I lost a card, they sent me a new one, and it's lost its TTI logo, but the rate and bills are identical. (Customer service now answers as "Worldcom" and the toll free number for making calls answers as "Worldcom", but the bills still say TTI National .. I checked with them and the rates are identical to my old card.)

Here's what they said the rates were for a few international cities. (Caveat .. my card is not the same one as the tti national card in the link above, so that one may be different.) Are these rates any good?

Each direct dial international call has a 95 cent per call surcharge. There's no surcharge on domestic calls. These are per minute rates to the US. They also provided country-wide toll free numbers when I asked for them:

Thailand: $1.30 per minute
Hong Kong: $1.57 per minute
Singapore: $1.61 per minute
London: $0.96 per minute

I'm pretty sure the billing is in 6 second increments.

The customer service number for the card is 800-741-9200. The card is labeled Worldcom/Worldphone.

UAL Traveler: I'm pretty sure you can call non-US to non-US also. When I asked for the rates, the rep asked me if I wanted the rate from country X to the US.

-David


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Old May 17, 2001 | 4:23 am
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47CFR64.1300

Sec. 64.1300 Payphone compensation obligation.

(a) Except as provided herein, every carrier to whom a completed call from a payphone is routed shall compensate the payphone service provider for the call at a rate agreed upon by the parties by contract.
(b) The compensation obligation set forth herein shall not apply to calls to emergency numbers, calls by hearing disabled persons to a telecommunications relay service or local calls for which the caller has made the required coin deposit.
(c) In the absence of an agreement as required by paragraph (a) of this section, the carrier is obligated to compensate the payphone service provider at a per-call rate of $.24.

[61 FR 52324, Oct. 7, 1996, as amended at 62 FR 58686, Oct. 30, 1997; 64
FR 13719, Mar. 22, 1999]
That's where your six-unit "surcharge" comes from.
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Old May 17, 2001 | 4:53 am
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Sthokie: Thanks for posting the link for noblecom.com

After looking at the prepaid Global Call card from noblecom.com, it really looks like the best bet for international to US calls. On the downside, the cards are one time use prepaid only .. no recharging, so you have to plan ahead .. they are good for a year from first use.

The per-minute rates are really cheap and there are no surcharges, and it's the AT&T network. It doesn't say on the web site if there are countrywide toll-free access numbers or not. Does anybody know if they use the AT&T countrywide toll free numbers for calls originating overseas?

They don't have a phone number posted.

They don't appear to have any country-country access for non-US calls. but I only tried one or two combinations.

-David

P.S.: I found a number I had written down for TTI National customer service in case anybody wants it: 800 893 5094. This is a number that they actually answer as "TTI National".

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