HE didnt wish she was dead, his friends did.
I think I said I BET he hates her, but we dont really know what he REALLY thinks right now, do we?... Knowing him, I would imagine he'd rather just forget her altogether and move on, and if he tells me he "hates" her in confidence, then are those real feelings or just words? Oh, I think he would not like to see her around and does not like her at all, and I think he would gladly grab the miles if they came to him in such a way, but man, what are you trying to tell me? Based on what she was like to him, I certainly would hate her and take her miles!

Is it wrong to get in and take something of hers or anyone's? Sure, but I aint the one who did it, and I am not telling everyone to go out and do it either. Anyone in here who cannot think for themselves has got to reconisder their own position.
As far as i am concerned, if George's story were what happened in this case, is it more justified than not for him to take his evil X's miles? I certainly think so.

Why do I get the feeling that the sheer fact that I was willing to come up with some form of wild justification to any of this suddenly makes me out to be some type of bad guy here? It seems that that people like yourself would rather eagerly go grab pieces of my quotes and try to illustrate to the FT community that I am the real evil doer here just for THINKING up such things!

Ethics aside, I find that even worse a move!

Now, this same issue has come up before in other threads and it's always the same thing. Reminds me of the white out story where someone got on my case just for having a freakin' imagination. Screw it--people here have to lighten up, Francis!... Like I said, I'd still take her miles if that happened like that to me.

It won't though, BTW.

NO! DON'T DO IT!! IT'S FLAT OUT WRONG!!!

Please email me the account name/number/password...

Just cuz YOU shouldn't ethically do it doesn't mean that I won't do it...

THIS IS CALLED STEALING

When I read the OP story, I didn't think of a scheming divorcee, but rather as a secretary/boss relationship. Most people who delegate booking of their plane tickets will generally know nothing about miles, give their card number to the person booking and possibly the web access code was chosen by the secretary too...

STEAL the miles from this person's account and use them to book a free ticket for someone who is currently stuck in Asia and desperatly needs to get out of there! You could easily find out who these people may be by simply calling the State Dept and asking them to give you a name of someone who needs a ticket. When you tell them you have the means to fly them out for free, they may let you do it! If not, just ask friends. Someone is bound to know someone!

Now, I ask you all:

Is THAT something that could override the ethics here?

Why, even the owner of said miles would have to agree it went to a far better cause! Later, you could pay them back something if they ever come after you, but for now, you could get some satisfaction and also prevent them from expiring while helping someone else out who is very much in need, but not yourself!

MM

An excellent idea, but better implemented (since this is a thread about ethics) by saying to the owner of the miles "You have all these miles you're not using, there are people stuck in Asia with no way to get home, how about using some of them to bring them back? If you don't know how, I can handle the process."

No. No. No. No. No.

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yes, yours is indeed the wisest way to do it because then you sort of force the person with the miles to do what may be considered a very good deed and at the same time, you indicate that you can help them do it.

But if it is some ugly divorce, the last thing they need to hear is your voice, in which case, this chance you have to screw em to the wall can be done by you to them, but you really screw them over by giving their miles away to a higher cause at the same time. I would think that they may know nothing of miles anyway (as was the case in my older story in this thread about George and Elaine) and so your telling them to use them for charity is not going to make them move quickly on the act. Didnt the OP say the miles were about to expire anyway?

Well, I think if it were me and it were some ugly divorce where I felt I really got burnt, I would just go in and unload them to the charitable cause and then laugh in the face of the person. But then again, this is not about me.

At the same time, however, I am now actually considering taking some of my stray miles and finding a way to let people in need use them to get out of Asia, etc. Do we know if the places who accept such donations are up to speed on how to actually use them, or would one be better off just doing it on their own and then telling FT how it worked out? I would like to find our who in Asia may need these miles!