Chase Home Equity Loan for Many Miles
#1
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sebastopol,CA
Posts: 180
There is a great loan that Gary links from his Free Frequent Flyer site. Chase is offering "Earn 4,250 miles for every $10,000 financed". I am in the process of completing my loan and will keep you posted but this is what they have told me. The loan application took 15 minutes the appraiser took an hour.
No Points, No Fees, and first year Admin cost ($75/yr) is waived. Interest rate is Prime for loans under $200K and Prime +1/4% for loans from $200K-$500K.
What ever I initially fund with the Equity line will determine my United Miles and I can then pay down the loan. I am not concerned about rates going up because I am paying off the loan after it funds.
Due to lots of equity I am getting the maximum loan for $500K and will get 211,500 miles and pay the loan off the after it funds. The loan agent said that I can then borrow on my rental with the same terms and interest rates. As long as you start the loan process by July 31st you will receive the bonus miles (4250 per $10K borrowed vs 1250 per $10K borrowed)
With the two loans my interest cost will be ~ $600 and I will receive 425,000 United Plus miles.
Anyone with equity in their home or rental should take advantage of this offer.
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,50776,00.html
No Points, No Fees, and first year Admin cost ($75/yr) is waived. Interest rate is Prime for loans under $200K and Prime +1/4% for loans from $200K-$500K.
What ever I initially fund with the Equity line will determine my United Miles and I can then pay down the loan. I am not concerned about rates going up because I am paying off the loan after it funds.
Due to lots of equity I am getting the maximum loan for $500K and will get 211,500 miles and pay the loan off the after it funds. The loan agent said that I can then borrow on my rental with the same terms and interest rates. As long as you start the loan process by July 31st you will receive the bonus miles (4250 per $10K borrowed vs 1250 per $10K borrowed)
With the two loans my interest cost will be ~ $600 and I will receive 425,000 United Plus miles.
Anyone with equity in their home or rental should take advantage of this offer.
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,50776,00.html
#2




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How about some thing more
Originally Posted by ultraman
There is a great loan that Gary links from his Free Frequent Flyer site. Chase is offering "Earn 4,250 miles for every $10,000 financed". I am in the process of completing my loan and will keep you posted but this is what they have told me. The loan application took 15 minutes the appraiser took an hour.
No Points, No Fees, and first year Admin cost ($75/yr) is waived. Interest rate is Prime for loans under $200K and Prime +1/4% for loans from $200K-$500K.
What ever I initially fund with the Equity line will determine my United Miles and I can then pay down the loan. I am not concerned about rates going up because I am paying off the loan after it funds.
Due to lots of equity I am getting the maximum loan for $500K and will get 211,500 miles and pay the loan off the after it funds. The loan agent said that I can then borrow on my rental with the same terms and interest rates. As long as you start the loan process by July 31st you will receive the bonus miles (4250 per $10K borrowed vs 1250 per $10K borrowed)
With the two loans my interest cost will be ~ $600 and I will receive 425,000 United Plus miles.
Anyone with equity in their home or rental should take advantage of this offer.
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,50776,00.html
No Points, No Fees, and first year Admin cost ($75/yr) is waived. Interest rate is Prime for loans under $200K and Prime +1/4% for loans from $200K-$500K.
What ever I initially fund with the Equity line will determine my United Miles and I can then pay down the loan. I am not concerned about rates going up because I am paying off the loan after it funds.
Due to lots of equity I am getting the maximum loan for $500K and will get 211,500 miles and pay the loan off the after it funds. The loan agent said that I can then borrow on my rental with the same terms and interest rates. As long as you start the loan process by July 31st you will receive the bonus miles (4250 per $10K borrowed vs 1250 per $10K borrowed)
With the two loans my interest cost will be ~ $600 and I will receive 425,000 United Plus miles.
Anyone with equity in their home or rental should take advantage of this offer.
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,50776,00.html

Good if you don't need the money. But I would recommend you visit the finance section of fatwallet. There are some threads there about taking HELOC for low rates and then putting the money in CDs and making money due to the interest differential. The discussion mentioned some thing like 10-20K over a period of 5 years with 200K loan. Interest rates may have changed since then, but still worth looking into and sure will beat 500K united miles which is probably worth five grand.(Well in my poor economy travel sense)
Just my 2 cents...
Prasad
#3
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 920
Good if you don't need the money. But I would recommend you visit the finance section of fatwallet. There are some threads there about taking HELOC for low rates and then putting the money in CDs and making money due to the interest differential. The discussion mentioned some thing like 10-20K over a period of 5 years with 200K loan. Interest rates may have changed since then, but still worth looking into and sure will beat 500K united miles which is probably worth five grand.(Well in my poor economy travel sense)
He is talking about a HELOC ( Home Equity Line Of Credit ). It is worth 1,250 per 10k financed.
But the risk with a line of credit is tha tthe rate changes as interest rates rise. So you might be able to get a 5 yr CD paying 6% right now and only be paying 4% on your line of credit, but what happens when Prime goes to 6 or 7% ? Then you are losing money ( 6% of CD but paying 6-7% on your line of credit)
He is talking about a HELOC ( Home Equity Line Of Credit ). It is worth 1,250 per 10k financed.
But the risk with a line of credit is tha tthe rate changes as interest rates rise. So you might be able to get a 5 yr CD paying 6% right now and only be paying 4% on your line of credit, but what happens when Prime goes to 6 or 7% ? Then you are losing money ( 6% of CD but paying 6-7% on your line of credit)
#5
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sebastopol,CA
Posts: 180
The United - Chase Equity Loan bonus of 5250 per 10,000 borrowed has been extended from July 31st to September 30th, 2004.
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,50776,00.html
My loan should close next week (they send the notary to your house) and the loan processor said they will pay of my other line of credit and wire the money to my account. They will also let me pay down the line of credit with a wire transfer so I hope my interest cost will only be one or two days.
After I do my rental line of credit and pay this loan off I may do the E Loan line of credit ($200 loan fee, Prime - 1/4%). I agree with Gary that this process will maximize my miles and min. the interest rate cost and risk. I may get 600,000 miles in a year with 4 loans and very little cost (< $500).
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,50776,00.html
My loan should close next week (they send the notary to your house) and the loan processor said they will pay of my other line of credit and wire the money to my account. They will also let me pay down the line of credit with a wire transfer so I hope my interest cost will only be one or two days.
After I do my rental line of credit and pay this loan off I may do the E Loan line of credit ($200 loan fee, Prime - 1/4%). I agree with Gary that this process will maximize my miles and min. the interest rate cost and risk. I may get 600,000 miles in a year with 4 loans and very little cost (< $500).
#7
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sebastopol,CA
Posts: 180
Originally Posted by eager to learn
Does anyone know if we can do a similar thing- that is a home equity line and get AAdvantage miles?
Under Finance --> Home Buying
AA has these:
American Airlines.
Wells Fargo Bank mortgage program.
Cendant Real Estate. Miles for choosing one of their real estate agents, and for moving.
SIRVA. Miles for choosing one of their real estate agents, and for moving. More info here.
The best deal gives you 1,250 miles per $10,000 borrowed (vs the 4250 for the Chase-United deal)
#8

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: los angeles,ca
Posts: 281
some questions ....
Originally Posted by ultraman
There is a great loan that Gary links from his Free Frequent Flyer site. Chase is offering "Earn 4,250 miles for every $10,000 financed". I am in the process of completing my loan and will keep you posted but this is what they have told me. The loan application took 15 minutes the appraiser took an hour.
No Points, No Fees, and first year Admin cost ($75/yr) is waived. Interest rate is Prime for loans under $200K and Prime +1/4% for loans from $200K-$500K.
What ever I initially fund with the Equity line will determine my United Miles and I can then pay down the loan. I am not concerned about rates going up because I am paying off the loan after it funds.
Due to lots of equity I am getting the maximum loan for $500K and will get 211,500 miles and pay the loan off the after it funds. The loan agent said that I can then borrow on my rental with the same terms and interest rates. As long as you start the loan process by July 31st you will receive the bonus miles (4250 per $10K borrowed vs 1250 per $10K borrowed)
With the two loans my interest cost will be ~ $600 and I will receive 425,000 United Plus miles.
Anyone with equity in their home or rental should take advantage of this offer.
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,50776,00.html
No Points, No Fees, and first year Admin cost ($75/yr) is waived. Interest rate is Prime for loans under $200K and Prime +1/4% for loans from $200K-$500K.
What ever I initially fund with the Equity line will determine my United Miles and I can then pay down the loan. I am not concerned about rates going up because I am paying off the loan after it funds.
Due to lots of equity I am getting the maximum loan for $500K and will get 211,500 miles and pay the loan off the after it funds. The loan agent said that I can then borrow on my rental with the same terms and interest rates. As long as you start the loan process by July 31st you will receive the bonus miles (4250 per $10K borrowed vs 1250 per $10K borrowed)
With the two loans my interest cost will be ~ $600 and I will receive 425,000 United Plus miles.
Anyone with equity in their home or rental should take advantage of this offer.
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,50776,00.html

Questions:
1. "...no point, no fee ..." Do you mean no closing cost at all?
2. If you have first mortgage going on, are you able to do so?
3. Is there any prepayment penalty since you pay off right away?
4. Is there any early closing account penalty?
5. How long does it take for the whole process, on-line only without live person contact?
6. How soon will the miles be posted in you acct?
Last edited by yyyccclll; Jul 2, 2004 at 10:24 am
#9
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sebastopol,CA
Posts: 180
Originally Posted by yyyccclll
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Questions:
1. "...no point, no fee ..." Do you mean no closing cost at all?
Yes - No closing cost at all. They absorb the appraisal, title fees etc.
2. If you have first mortgage going on, are you able to do so?
Yes if you have equity in the house. They will loan to 85% of the appraised value so if you have a $200K house they will loan to $170K less the first mortgage.
3. Is there any prepayment penalty since you pay off right away?
There is no prepayment penalty.
4. Is there any early closing account penalty?
No
5. How long does it take for the whole process, on-line only without live person contact?
I did the application with a live person. I don't think they have an on-line application. I also wanted to ask the questions that you asked in #1-4 above. They application took 15 minutes and they fed ex the application and I had to supply copies of my tax returns (2 years), proof of insurance, and copy of my existing loan.
6. How soon will the miles be posted in you acct?
Questions:
1. "...no point, no fee ..." Do you mean no closing cost at all?
Yes - No closing cost at all. They absorb the appraisal, title fees etc.
2. If you have first mortgage going on, are you able to do so?
Yes if you have equity in the house. They will loan to 85% of the appraised value so if you have a $200K house they will loan to $170K less the first mortgage.
3. Is there any prepayment penalty since you pay off right away?
There is no prepayment penalty.
4. Is there any early closing account penalty?
No
5. How long does it take for the whole process, on-line only without live person contact?
I did the application with a live person. I don't think they have an on-line application. I also wanted to ask the questions that you asked in #1-4 above. They application took 15 minutes and they fed ex the application and I had to supply copies of my tax returns (2 years), proof of insurance, and copy of my existing loan.
6. How soon will the miles be posted in you acct?


