Win 1 million Starpoints
#16
Moderator, Argentina and FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: MIA / EZE
Programs: Lord of Malbec & all Wines Argentine. AA EXP / Marriott Lifetime Gold / Hyatt Explorist / Hertz PC
Posts: 36,204
As a matter of fact, Im so ticked off about this Im gonna email starwood and tell them how I feel. Will keep you posted on what they tell me.
#19

Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Cary, NC, USA - AA Plt 3mm/DL Dia 2mm, Hil/Dia Life, Bonvoy/Titanium Life, Spire
Posts: 3,261
The only problem I have with this contest entry for StarWood is that you cannot deselect the two following items:
1. Yes, please send me personalized vacation offers.
2. Yes, I would like to be added to your e-mail list for special Internet offers.
I believe StarWood would stoop to this level of no option spam marketing...
If you want to win two million membership rewards points, try www.sweepstakes.vacationclub.com/amex
1. Yes, please send me personalized vacation offers.
2. Yes, I would like to be added to your e-mail list for special Internet offers.
I believe StarWood would stoop to this level of no option spam marketing...
If you want to win two million membership rewards points, try www.sweepstakes.vacationclub.com/amex
#20
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: New York
Posts: 2,115
Gaucho:
Yeah, Starwood is going to do 182 different promotions to cover the different laws in every country. I know you said Major markets, but who defines a major market?
Maybe to Starwood Indonesia isnt a major market. You be upset then, because US, Europe and Japan got to promotion. No matter what they do, unless they offer it everyone, someone can be upset.
If Starwood(or any other company) does a UK promotion, thats fine with me. They have a right to look for business anywhere they choose.
I, and nobody else for that matter, don't have any entitlement to promotions and offers.
What's to stop someone from saying, hey I satyed at Starwood 8 times in one month, I should be platinum for that month?
The hotels/airlines set the rules for their programs. They choose who gets things and who doesn't.
The 1 million starpoints is worth about $20,000. Starwood has the right to spend their 20,000 anyway they choose. Whether You, I, or the man in moon like it or not.
Yeah, Starwood is going to do 182 different promotions to cover the different laws in every country. I know you said Major markets, but who defines a major market?
Maybe to Starwood Indonesia isnt a major market. You be upset then, because US, Europe and Japan got to promotion. No matter what they do, unless they offer it everyone, someone can be upset.
If Starwood(or any other company) does a UK promotion, thats fine with me. They have a right to look for business anywhere they choose.
I, and nobody else for that matter, don't have any entitlement to promotions and offers.
What's to stop someone from saying, hey I satyed at Starwood 8 times in one month, I should be platinum for that month?
The hotels/airlines set the rules for their programs. They choose who gets things and who doesn't.
The 1 million starpoints is worth about $20,000. Starwood has the right to spend their 20,000 anyway they choose. Whether You, I, or the man in moon like it or not.
#22
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London and Zurich
Programs: AA, BA, Mucci: Sir Roger des Directions Routires, PCR
Posts: 13,609
How ironic that the Vacation Club International sweepstakes, as well as the Starpoints offer, is not available to International participants.
Boomer: what's your problem? We stay at the same hotels, why not take part in the same promotions?
Boomer: what's your problem? We stay at the same hotels, why not take part in the same promotions?
#23
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: New York
Posts: 2,115
Roger:
My problem is this insistance among some flyertalkers that everyone is entitled to every promotion.
Airlines and Hotels have every right to offer selected promotions to whomever they choose.
I've seen International promotions that weren't open to US residents. Since the Airline/Hotel is paying the cost of the promotion, they have the right to choose who they offer it to.
Just because someone gives my brother a great deal, doesn't mean they have to give the same deal to me.
I've seen this issues raised time and again on flyertalk. In the continental forum this comes up every couple of months, they do a lot of targeted marketing. Some of us get one offer, others get a different one. People named JAWS usually get no offer.
The entitlement crowd is basically saying that anything a company offers to one person they have to offer to all people. I find this premise fundamentally wrong. Furthermore since most of are elites we seem to be very happy to except unequal treatment when we benefit.
As a case in point, Continental earlier this year, gave a good friend a fabulous deal, a possible bonus of 190,000 miles. This friend never flew Continental. I fly them 100,000 a year and I didnt get the offer.
Would I have liked to get the offer, sure.
Was I entitled to it, NO.
Was Continental wrong not to offer it to me? NO.
My problem is this insistance among some flyertalkers that everyone is entitled to every promotion.
Airlines and Hotels have every right to offer selected promotions to whomever they choose.
I've seen International promotions that weren't open to US residents. Since the Airline/Hotel is paying the cost of the promotion, they have the right to choose who they offer it to.
Just because someone gives my brother a great deal, doesn't mean they have to give the same deal to me.
I've seen this issues raised time and again on flyertalk. In the continental forum this comes up every couple of months, they do a lot of targeted marketing. Some of us get one offer, others get a different one. People named JAWS usually get no offer.
The entitlement crowd is basically saying that anything a company offers to one person they have to offer to all people. I find this premise fundamentally wrong. Furthermore since most of are elites we seem to be very happy to except unequal treatment when we benefit.
As a case in point, Continental earlier this year, gave a good friend a fabulous deal, a possible bonus of 190,000 miles. This friend never flew Continental. I fly them 100,000 a year and I didnt get the offer.
Would I have liked to get the offer, sure.
Was I entitled to it, NO.
Was Continental wrong not to offer it to me? NO.





