Bumpings - working the Oversold system
#16
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: BOS, SEA
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, DL Gold, LP ex-Millionaire!
Posts: 565
The $109 fare was a special deal to get people on Delta's new direct BOS-LAX flights. It was only good for the 7/13-14 on the outbound and good for a 7 day stay, I think.
I read about it here on this forum. I was surprised how easy it was to get the fare--especially since the flights ended up being so full.
I read about it here on this forum. I was surprised how easy it was to get the fare--especially since the flights ended up being so full.
#17




Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Phila Delta ex-PM, ex-UA-PE
Posts: 2,665
I had a similar thing happen on the JFK-LAX Delta flight 3 weeks ago - $400 voucher and bumped to Business Elite. This was on a $209 webfare ticket. I was doing this as a mileage run for the transcontinental bonus, I accumulated almost 22,000 miles just for that trip!
Delta has been heavily promoting their BE transcon service from JFK & BOS to the west coast. For at least the last 6 weeks, JFK-LAX has been available for webfares over the weekend. Naturally, since I was able to go this weekend, they aren't offering iy. I think their promotion has paid off for them!
Jeff
Delta has been heavily promoting their BE transcon service from JFK & BOS to the west coast. For at least the last 6 weeks, JFK-LAX has been available for webfares over the weekend. Naturally, since I was able to go this weekend, they aren't offering iy. I think their promotion has paid off for them!
Jeff
Originally posted by stephlac:
[I just returned from a BOS-LAX trip. I had paid $109 roundtrip on Delta. On the return I was bumped for a $500 voucher and an upgrade to first class on the next direct flight (four hour delay). I was almost bumped on that flight also.
I was happy enough with the $109 fare (and the miles). The voucher and upgrade were great bonuses!
[I just returned from a BOS-LAX trip. I had paid $109 roundtrip on Delta. On the return I was bumped for a $500 voucher and an upgrade to first class on the next direct flight (four hour delay). I was almost bumped on that flight also.
I was happy enough with the $109 fare (and the miles). The voucher and upgrade were great bonuses!
#18
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: BOS, SEA
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, DL Gold, LP ex-Millionaire!
Posts: 565
Jeff,
How did you get 22,000 points for this trip? I got 13,400 including the transcon bonus, online booking bonus, Silver medallion bonus and class of service bonus. Just curious if I'm missing something.
Stephen
How did you get 22,000 points for this trip? I got 13,400 including the transcon bonus, online booking bonus, Silver medallion bonus and class of service bonus. Just curious if I'm missing something.
Stephen
#19
Original Member


Join Date: May 1998
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 2,684
Don't forget, if you're bumped you don't HAVE to fly to get the miles.
My story: I was in Tampa going to Toronto. I booked last minute and booked AC nonstop late evening.
Unexpectedly a coworker was assigned to go along, who was a loyal AA customer. He booked TPA-MIA-YYZ.
I decided to join him last minute, so bought a tkt at the AA counter (it would have gotten in around 8 pm, rather than my nonstop arriving at 11 pm). AA counter wouldn't take my AC tkt (due to time constraints).
I head out to the gate, to find my co-worker waiting. Turns out they are 2 flights behind and he's sitting until they call his flight.
They call that flight a few mins later and after a little confusion, end up saying "we need volunteers for...." They didn't even have to get the rest out before I was in line.
I got $300 and walked promptly back to the ticket counter where my ticket was voided. Never even hit my credit card.
Bill, my coworker, always enjoys telling the story.
JL
My story: I was in Tampa going to Toronto. I booked last minute and booked AC nonstop late evening.
Unexpectedly a coworker was assigned to go along, who was a loyal AA customer. He booked TPA-MIA-YYZ.
I decided to join him last minute, so bought a tkt at the AA counter (it would have gotten in around 8 pm, rather than my nonstop arriving at 11 pm). AA counter wouldn't take my AC tkt (due to time constraints).
I head out to the gate, to find my co-worker waiting. Turns out they are 2 flights behind and he's sitting until they call his flight.
They call that flight a few mins later and after a little confusion, end up saying "we need volunteers for...." They didn't even have to get the rest out before I was in line.
I got $300 and walked promptly back to the ticket counter where my ticket was voided. Never even hit my credit card.
Bill, my coworker, always enjoys telling the story.
JL
#20
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Programs: AA PLT, SPG GLD, PC PLT SPIRE
Posts: 4,531
When playing the bump game, which of the following flights during the day would you think you have the best chance of getting bumped, the first flight out on a given morning (i.e. 6:30 a.m.), or the 2nd one (7:45 a.m.)?
I fly LAX-SJC monday mornings at 6:30 a.m. which is pretty heavily frequented by business commuters and so I would imagine that the 6:30 flight has a better chance of being oversold b/c the 7:45 would get business travelers into SJC at too late of a time (~8:45 a.m.) to start their mornings after having to rent a car and then driving from the airport to thier offices or meetings. Does this reasoning hold true in other business commuter areas?
I fly LAX-SJC monday mornings at 6:30 a.m. which is pretty heavily frequented by business commuters and so I would imagine that the 6:30 flight has a better chance of being oversold b/c the 7:45 would get business travelers into SJC at too late of a time (~8:45 a.m.) to start their mornings after having to rent a car and then driving from the airport to thier offices or meetings. Does this reasoning hold true in other business commuter areas?
#21
In Memoriam
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Easton, CT, USA
Programs: ua prem exec, Former hilton diamond
Posts: 31,801
Anybody know how they determine the voucher amount they give? I ask because we were in LaGuardia picking up somebody at Delta (the Saturday of Memorial day at 7 am) and they were looking for volunteers to bump off the New York - Atlanta Flight. They would get you there at 2 instead of in the morning, and were offering $1,000 in vouchers.
Never heard that much before, and I wanted to pick up the cell phone, purchase a ticket, and then give it up for the money, but the wife wouldn't let me (and if I had you know they would have had their 10th volunteer just as I was reading the expiration date on the credit card).
The other surprizing thing, besides the $1,000 per person, is they couldn't get the people they needed.
#23




Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Phila Delta ex-PM, ex-UA-PE
Posts: 2,665
JFK-LAX:
- 2475 flight miles
- 10000 BE transcon bonus
- 618 25% of fm bonus
LAX-JFK
- 2475 flight miles
- 6000 transcom bonus
delta-air.com
- 1000 online ticket purchase
My calculator says 22568 DL miles (plus another 313 AMEX MR points for each ticket).
Jeff
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- 2475 flight miles
- 10000 BE transcon bonus
- 618 25% of fm bonus
LAX-JFK
- 2475 flight miles
- 6000 transcom bonus
delta-air.com
- 1000 online ticket purchase
My calculator says 22568 DL miles (plus another 313 AMEX MR points for each ticket).
Jeff
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Originally posted by stephlac:
Jeff,
How did you get 22,000 points for this trip? I got 13,400 including the transcon bonus, online booking bonus, Silver medallion bonus and class of service bonus. Just curious if I'm missing something.
Stephen
Jeff,
How did you get 22,000 points for this trip? I got 13,400 including the transcon bonus, online booking bonus, Silver medallion bonus and class of service bonus. Just curious if I'm missing something.
Stephen
#26
Original Member


Join Date: May 1998
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 2,684
boomer, don't be too sure about that...I'm not sure if they cut off flights like that, plus imagine when a carrier xld an earlier flight and didn't get the res system updated. I've done it--as mentioned earlier here bought tkt (B-fare, if I recall) TPA-MIA-YYZ, went out to the satellite and not 10 minutes later was on the shuttle back to the main building $300 to the good.
jl
jl
#27
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 146
I have volunteered many a time for free vouchers but on a recent AA flight from SFO-JFK, I had upgraded using my electronic upgrade stickers when they announced a smaller plane would be substituted for the original one due to mechanical problems. I was called to the front desk and told that they didn't have as many seats in First Class and Business Class and needed to put me back in Coach but would give me $500 vouchers. I told them this was fine but should I have negotiated this?
#28
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 141
I am a firm believer in the "volunteer/bump" system. My best results were earlier this year going from JFK to Brussels on DL. Coach was oversold, I volunteered and received the following: voucher for $1,000; upgrade on a Sabena flight to Business Class which left only 4 hours later; and upgrade to Business Class on my return flight from Brussels back to the US.
Is this a great country or what?
Is this a great country or what?
#29
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: May 1999
Posts: 46,817
My experience is that Elite status generally helps keep you from being bumped when you don't want to be and especially on a FREE ticket obtained using miles and that it also helps you to get bump priority when you want to be - but there are clearly NO gaurantees!


