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Originally Posted by mia
(Post 36064418)
Welcome to Flyertalk.
I do understand that merchants would prefer to pay less, but to suggest that they should pay nothing needs further explanation. Payment Card Pricing and Merchant Cost Pass-through in the United States and Canada," published by the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas.) The system should be changed so that credit card users pay the cost of using their cards, rather than causing inflated prices by using them. Merchants should have to pay only for the hardware and software they use, and costs (if any) associated with their banking. |
Originally Posted by beachmouse
(Post 36066967)
The problem is that US airlines lean very heavily on those credit card miles in order to operate in the black every year.
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Originally Posted by pinniped
(Post 35730078)
At this point, I'd be willing to support the bill in exchange for one consumer-friendly add-on: outlaw credit card surcharges / minimums everywhere in the U.S.
Originally Posted by pinniped
(Post 35730078)
As much as I love miles/points, it seems too grossly self-serving to write my Congressman to say "keep this duopoly intact to keep my prices higher so that I can get points/miles on the back end." I get the banks' logic and the airlines' logic, but I totally realize that the 99% of the people in this world who aren't points/miles nerds should *not* want this.
Originally Posted by Hipplewm
(Post 35731505)
AFAIK, this brings the US in line with roughly the same EU regulations and loyalty program still work there.
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Originally Posted by tmiw
(Post 36081063)
The reason why many of the previous state-level anti-surcharging laws went away was due to SCOTUS ruling against them on First Amendment grounds. I'm not sure if there's a way to write such a law that makes it viable (though IANAL so I'm probably wrong on that).
Originally Posted by tmiw
(Post 36081063)
Yep, especially since there are CC benefits other than points/miles (such as extended warranties and trip protection) that would very likely go away if this passes. ...
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Originally Posted by mia
(Post 36064418)
Welcome to Flyertalk.
Where is the analysis to support this claim? Merchants benefit from accepting payment by card, and they should pay for the service. I do understand that merchants would prefer to pay less, but to suggest that they should pay nothing needs further explanation. 1- Cash $11 2- Check $14 3-Discover $17 4- Master Card $23 5- Visa $26 6- AMEX $31 |
Originally Posted by bigbuy
(Post 36084568)
I'll back your question up mia. Use to own a retail business. Here are the figures for my average sales reciepts from my memory.
1- Cash $11 2- Check $14 3-Discover $17 4- Master Card $23 5- Visa $26 6- AMEX $31 |
Originally Posted by islandoid
(Post 36085579)
Thanks, BigBuy. I have tried replying twice to Mia's reply to me, but those replies haven't been posted to the board. My replies were on the up-and-up, so I have no idea why. She asked for info to back up what I said, and I was trying to provide it.
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Thank you.
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Originally Posted by islandoid
(Post 36085579)
Thanks, BigBuy. I have tried replying twice to Mia's reply to me, but those replies haven't been posted to the board. My replies were on the up-and-up, so I have no idea why. She asked for info to back up what I said, and I was trying to provide it.
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The economist had a nice article on the topic:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...74e07befdc.png https://www.economist.com/special-re...the-rich-world |
What will happen to all the travel blogs/trip report blogs? Without the allure of a first class trip to Paris using points earned from clicking on their sign up links, I’m not sure how they survive.
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
(Post 36089133)
(BTW, disabling JavaScript lets you read the article without the registration prompt if you don't have an Economist subscription.) |
Originally Posted by bigbuy
(Post 36084568)
I'll back your question up mia. Use to own a retail business. Here are the figures for my average sales reciepts from my memory.
1- Cash $11 2- Check $14 3-Discover $17 4- Master Card $23 5- Visa $26 6- AMEX $31 But if the above are showing the inflated price because of credit card processing fee, then you make a lot more in profit ?? |
I bet if they lowered the fee and most credit card users dropped the card, merchants would end up refusing to accept credit cards altogether.
I remember 20+ years ago, most merchants did not accept credit cards as either new technology or flatly refused to accept a "delayed" payment and the associated fee with a credit card. Imagine bringing cash when you travel across the border and the hassle that comes with it. |
Dropping the interchange to 0.2-0-3% was a major success factor for merchants in Europe to accept cards during the pandemic. CC acceptance was terrible in comparison to the US.
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