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Smiley90 Jul 31, 2015 3:30 pm

All those jumping on the IHG card before it's gone, do you mind posting what range your credit score is? I don't wanna waste a pull :P

crimsona Jul 31, 2015 3:47 pm

Rejected for IHG at 700 EQ score.

Recently approved for Amex Business Gold and CIBC Aeroplan Business Gold in the last 3 months.

Fairly sure they do double pulls

keitherson Jul 31, 2015 4:03 pm

Capital One in Canada is ridiculous. I haven't even bothered applying given how they required like 6-12 months of no credit application or check at all

jerryhung Jul 31, 2015 6:08 pm


Originally Posted by Smiley90 (Post 25203062)
All those jumping on the IHG card before it's gone, do you mind posting what range your credit score is? I don't wanna waste a pull :P

I applied with 711 score and got approved instantly

Pretty sure I have 5+ apps in the last few months, latest one being July 1st AMEX Gold, and I own Cap1 Aspire Travel already (the discontinued one)

Didn't know Cap1 was this picky

WestAust Jul 31, 2015 10:17 pm

Got approved for the IHG immediatly with scores in the 740 both tu and eq, with last inquiry just below the 3 months threshold.

kay sedia Aug 2, 2015 9:24 am

I was instantly approved and have also had at least 5 apps in the past three months. My transunion score only says 640, but I really don't get why its so always so low. Maybe because I have so much open credit? I also wonder how accurate the score is compared to what the bank sees. I never miss or have late payments, don't carry balances, high income. Oh well, I always get approved:)

neos Aug 3, 2015 2:22 pm

SPG Card: USA vs Canada
 

Originally Posted by Preacher7 (Post 25194973)
Another good point showing why Canadians have it better than Americans in this one aspect of the game: SPG. With the weak Canadian Peso, your earning rate is currently 25% higher than in the US.

This is an interesting aspect that I hadn't given much thought to.

As someone with both the US and Canadian SPG Amex, I'm trying to calculate if it's worth it to pay for something in the US with the Canadian card?

Example: Widget costs $100 US (~130 CAD). Assume USD/CAD=1.3
Pay with US SPG Amex: 100 *points
Pay with Cdn SPG Amex: 133 *points

But these 33 additional *points cost something.
1) Assume Amex Canada adds a 2.5% fee to the exchange rate.
2) Assume that converting from CAD to USD would cost at least 1.6% over the rate you find on xe.com.
3) Therefore, those 33 *points cost [($2.5-$1.6)/(133-100)] = 0.027

Therefore, it wouldn't be worth it. Correct?

rsoares28 Aug 3, 2015 3:10 pm

just got declined for IHG card, 705 on EQ, 4 apps in last 4 months

Any worth calling in? Anyone ever have any luck?

mahasamatman Aug 3, 2015 11:08 pm


Originally Posted by rsoares28 (Post 25215918)
just got declined for IHG card, 705 on EQ, 4 apps in last 4 months

Any worth calling in? Anyone ever have any luck?

Credit scores don't seem to mean much in Canada. My wife's score is 40 points higher than mine and hasn't had much luck with pretty much anyone, whereas I'm batting 1.000.

bmabnorth Aug 4, 2015 7:17 am


Originally Posted by neos (Post 25215680)
This is an interesting aspect that I hadn't given much thought to.

As someone with both the US and Canadian SPG Amex, I'm trying to calculate if it's worth it to pay for something in the US with the Canadian card?

Example: Widget costs $100 US (~130 CAD). Assume USD/CAD=1.3
Pay with US SPG Amex: 100 *points
Pay with Cdn SPG Amex: 133 *points

But these 33 additional *points cost something.
1) Assume Amex Canada adds a 2.5% fee to the exchange rate.
2) Assume that converting from CAD to USD would cost at least 1.6% over the rate you find on xe.com.
3) Therefore, those 33 *points cost [($2.5-$1.6)/(133-100)] = 0.027

Therefore, it wouldn't be worth it. Correct?

I don't think reason 2 applies. Typically (not sure about Amex for foreign currency) you get charged at interbank rate and then the %2.5 fee is tacked on. That's how MasterCard has always charged me. So you are paying essentially %2.5 for the points.

So yes, not worth it in my opinion unless you have no USD and would need to buy USD - so therefore it essentially cuts down the cost to about 1% (you can easily exchange USD/CAD at 1.5 from interbank)

It is worth it if, e.g., you are paying for a flight - where you can price it out using an OTA or the airline's website in either USD or CAD (e.g., you can use the expedia .ca or .com version to quote you a fare in the currency of your choosing).

neos Aug 4, 2015 9:05 am


Originally Posted by bmabnorth (Post 25218862)
I don't think reason 2 applies. Typically (not sure about Amex for foreign currency) you get charged at interbank rate and then the %2.5 fee is tacked on. That's how MasterCard has always charged me. So you are paying essentially %2.5 for the points.

I should have clarified: the 1.6% assumption was the approximate fee you would have to pay if you were converting CAD to USD yourself and transferring funds to a US bank account.

rataplan Aug 4, 2015 9:09 am


Originally Posted by jerryhung (Post 25197983)
No idea, I struggle to use it myself
I should've signed up for the CIBC Aerogold instead of Aventura

honestly I may simply let my 15K Aventura go to waste because I don't see any real good value reward to redeem... and it can't transfer out either :(



Originally Posted by crimsona (Post 25197999)
Aventura lost all appeal after they stopped allowing Aeroplan transfers.

14k gets you a $100 GC (costco being most useful)

https://rewards.cibcrewards.com/Rewa.../0/680100/None

Thanks for the suggestions. Gf has 120k...guess I'll be going to Costco a lot :D And time for her to change reward plan.

crimsona Aug 4, 2015 11:41 am

When did she get the card? 120k is a lot

Cardholders who signed up before Oct/Nov 2013 should still be able to transfer to Aeroplan.

flyer05 Aug 4, 2015 1:02 pm


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 25217714)
Credit scores don't seem to mean much in Canada. My wife's score is 40 points higher than mine and hasn't had much luck with pretty much anyone, whereas I'm batting 1.000.

Well, if credit score doesn't seem to matter much, what do we think does?? :confused:

barneyg_ Aug 4, 2015 3:03 pm


Originally Posted by rataplan (Post 25219397)
Thanks for the suggestions. Gf has 120k...guess I'll be going to Costco a lot :D And time for her to change reward plan.

If you guys plan to travel, Aventura gives 1% on hotels and prices are often similar to booking.com and others, so 14k points would be worth $140 instead of a $100 GC. It's a bit of a PITA to search/book on the CIBC rewards website however.


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