Which TWO Hotel Loyalty Programs?
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 5
Which TWO Hotel Loyalty Programs?
Hi everyone,
long time lurker first time poster. So my travel schedule is the standard consultant calendar ie. M->TR and I don't mind playing the check-in check-out game. I've been able to maintain top tier at SPG and gold status on Hilton. My question is this: If you had an option of maxing out two hotel chains, which two would they be?
I only ask this, because I tried booking a hotel through spg and noticed they seem to have less hotels then Hilton. But I also know that Hilton gets a lot of flack for not having "standard rooms" and thus causing you to book with more points etc. As the year is relatively young, I'm wondering if there's another hotel program I should think about using as a secondary hotel chain (ie. SPG + Marriott/ SPG + Hilton/ Hlton + Marriott) any input would be great, thanks everyone!
long time lurker first time poster. So my travel schedule is the standard consultant calendar ie. M->TR and I don't mind playing the check-in check-out game. I've been able to maintain top tier at SPG and gold status on Hilton. My question is this: If you had an option of maxing out two hotel chains, which two would they be?
I only ask this, because I tried booking a hotel through spg and noticed they seem to have less hotels then Hilton. But I also know that Hilton gets a lot of flack for not having "standard rooms" and thus causing you to book with more points etc. As the year is relatively young, I'm wondering if there's another hotel program I should think about using as a secondary hotel chain (ie. SPG + Marriott/ SPG + Hilton/ Hlton + Marriott) any input would be great, thanks everyone!
#3




Join Date: May 2008
Location: BOS/SIN
Programs: SQ
Posts: 2,704
What do you want, a free continental breakfast and an upgrade or the best redemption rates?
SPG and Hyatt have consistent guaranteed benefits, but their redemption/point earnings aren't as good as IHG across the board.
SPG and Hyatt have consistent guaranteed benefits, but their redemption/point earnings aren't as good as IHG across the board.
#4
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NC
Programs: Marriott LT Plat, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 2,881
Hi everyone,
long time lurker first time poster. So my travel schedule is the standard consultant calendar ie. M->TR and I don't mind playing the check-in check-out game. I've been able to maintain top tier at SPG and gold status on Hilton. My question is this: If you had an option of maxing out two hotel chains, which two would they be?
I only ask this, because I tried booking a hotel through spg and noticed they seem to have less hotels then Hilton. But I also know that Hilton gets a lot of flack for not having "standard rooms" and thus causing you to book with more points etc. As the year is relatively young, I'm wondering if there's another hotel program I should think about using as a secondary hotel chain (ie. SPG + Marriott/ SPG + Hilton/ Hlton + Marriott) any input would be great, thanks everyone!
long time lurker first time poster. So my travel schedule is the standard consultant calendar ie. M->TR and I don't mind playing the check-in check-out game. I've been able to maintain top tier at SPG and gold status on Hilton. My question is this: If you had an option of maxing out two hotel chains, which two would they be?
I only ask this, because I tried booking a hotel through spg and noticed they seem to have less hotels then Hilton. But I also know that Hilton gets a lot of flack for not having "standard rooms" and thus causing you to book with more points etc. As the year is relatively young, I'm wondering if there's another hotel program I should think about using as a secondary hotel chain (ie. SPG + Marriott/ SPG + Hilton/ Hlton + Marriott) any input would be great, thanks everyone!
1) is consistency important to you? (Marriott)
2) are you staying in mid-tier hotels? (Hilton - Hilton Garden Inn is the best of the mid tiers IMO)
3) Are you happy to be mid tier in multiple programs? (Marriott requires a lot of nights to hit top level, and they do not count stays, only nights)
4) what are your consistent areas of travel? (100% agree that Hyatt is great, but many people find there aren't enough of them to easily make the top tier. And at Hyatt there is a BIG difference between mid and top tier!)
5) is flexibility and suite upgrades important to you? (SPG offers a lot in their program)
Finally - where do you want to be in your OFF time? Ritz Carlton? St Regis? Hyatt Resorts? You want to earn points in a program you will be the happiest spending them!
As you can see - there lots of different things to consider as you develop a strategy - and no one can decide that but you!
FYI - I do Hyatt-Marriott-Hilton.
Good Luck!
#5




Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Home Airports: CAE/CLT
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, National Executive
Posts: 5,460
My primary is SPG, secondary is Hilton.
A Hilton property is easy to find, whereas SPG can be a bit tougher. IMHO Hyatt can be even more difficult. While many will say Hyatt and SPG, it may be very difficult to find those in any given area.
A Hilton property is easy to find, whereas SPG can be a bit tougher. IMHO Hyatt can be even more difficult. While many will say Hyatt and SPG, it may be very difficult to find those in any given area.
#6
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: GGG, DFW, IAH
Posts: 284
Hi everyone,
long time lurker first time poster. So my travel schedule is the standard consultant calendar ie. M->TR and I don't mind playing the check-in check-out game. I've been able to maintain top tier at SPG and gold status on Hilton. My question is this: If you had an option of maxing out two hotel chains, which two would they be?
I only ask this, because I tried booking a hotel through spg and noticed they seem to have less hotels then Hilton. But I also know that Hilton gets a lot of flack for not having "standard rooms" and thus causing you to book with more points etc. As the year is relatively young, I'm wondering if there's another hotel program I should think about using as a secondary hotel chain (ie. SPG + Marriott/ SPG + Hilton/ Hlton + Marriott) any input would be great, thanks everyone!
long time lurker first time poster. So my travel schedule is the standard consultant calendar ie. M->TR and I don't mind playing the check-in check-out game. I've been able to maintain top tier at SPG and gold status on Hilton. My question is this: If you had an option of maxing out two hotel chains, which two would they be?
I only ask this, because I tried booking a hotel through spg and noticed they seem to have less hotels then Hilton. But I also know that Hilton gets a lot of flack for not having "standard rooms" and thus causing you to book with more points etc. As the year is relatively young, I'm wondering if there's another hotel program I should think about using as a secondary hotel chain (ie. SPG + Marriott/ SPG + Hilton/ Hlton + Marriott) any input would be great, thanks everyone!
My personal position has always been that it makes sense to look at the points value at redemption only if you have two hotels otherwise equal from the perspective of your business travel.
For example, when travelling to Amsterdam, on the night before my flight back to the USA I try to stay in one of two hotels located in the security area of the terminal. Though one of these hotels doesn't earn any points while the other one earns points I would likely never use anywhere, I just cannot justify extra 15-30 minutes of travelling from the next closest hotel (which is Sheraton) to the terminal, standing in lines to pass the passport check in the morning peak hour etc. Extra points for the personal use will never outweight convenience of being in the right place for your business travel (and I'm not talking here about inside-the-terminal hotels being EUR80 cheaper than the Sheraton which saves my company money - which I learned to treat as my own - I understand that this might not be the strongest argument for some).
#7
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 5
How would you answer these questions?
1) is consistency important to you? (Marriott)
2) are you staying in mid-tier hotels? (Hilton - Hilton Garden Inn is the best of the mid tiers IMO)
3) Are you happy to be mid tier in multiple programs? (Marriott requires a lot of nights to hit top level, and they do not count stays, only nights)
4) what are your consistent areas of travel? (100% agree that Hyatt is great, but many people find there aren't enough of them to easily make the top tier. And at Hyatt there is a BIG difference between mid and top tier!)
5) is flexibility and suite upgrades important to you? (SPG offers a lot in their program)
Finally - where do you want to be in your OFF time? Ritz Carlton? St Regis? Hyatt Resorts? You want to earn points in a program you will be the happiest spending them!
As you can see - there lots of different things to consider as you develop a strategy - and no one can decide that but you!
FYI - I do Hyatt-Marriott-Hilton.
Good Luck!
1) is consistency important to you? (Marriott)
2) are you staying in mid-tier hotels? (Hilton - Hilton Garden Inn is the best of the mid tiers IMO)
3) Are you happy to be mid tier in multiple programs? (Marriott requires a lot of nights to hit top level, and they do not count stays, only nights)
4) what are your consistent areas of travel? (100% agree that Hyatt is great, but many people find there aren't enough of them to easily make the top tier. And at Hyatt there is a BIG difference between mid and top tier!)
5) is flexibility and suite upgrades important to you? (SPG offers a lot in their program)
Finally - where do you want to be in your OFF time? Ritz Carlton? St Regis? Hyatt Resorts? You want to earn points in a program you will be the happiest spending them!
As you can see - there lots of different things to consider as you develop a strategy - and no one can decide that but you!
FYI - I do Hyatt-Marriott-Hilton.
Good Luck!
thanks for some insightful points. I have been doing the SPG/Hilton route because it was relatively easy to achieve the mid->top tier with both based on "stays". My train of thought was that I'd use SPG for hopefully more of the top tier (St. Regis) and then using Hilton for some of the mid-tier stays when I can't stay at an SPG property.
For the rest of the flyertalk community:
How would you rate a silver/gold tier Marriott vs a gold tier Hilton? (I know this is probably a pretty specific question BUT it looks like if I do switch my secondary hotel chain, it'd be Marriott) Thanks again everyone!
#8

Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 642
Hi Sophie,
For the rest of the flyertalk community:
How would you rate a silver/gold tier Marriott vs a gold tier Hilton? (I know this is probably a pretty specific question BUT it looks like if I do switch my secondary hotel chain, it'd be Marriott) Thanks again everyone!
For the rest of the flyertalk community:
How would you rate a silver/gold tier Marriott vs a gold tier Hilton? (I know this is probably a pretty specific question BUT it looks like if I do switch my secondary hotel chain, it'd be Marriott) Thanks again everyone!
I think I got comped Gold at Hilton at one point but I didn't stay there much and can't quite remember what the benefits were.
#9

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott LT Titanium, Avis Chairman
Posts: 1,286
I've been a M-Th traveler for four years and I've found SPG and Marriott to be a winning combo. I like SPG the best, but sometimes it is either difficult to find SPG properties near the client site or the SPG properties are all sold out. Marriott has properties almost everywhere, even those small little towns where you hate to go. And if you're traveling every week, you can get plat status at both, no problem.
Of the 200+ consultants on my project, most all of them are either SPG or Marriott guys or both.
Of the 200+ consultants on my project, most all of them are either SPG or Marriott guys or both.
#11
Moderator: Chase Ultimate Rewards



Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SFO
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Having been mid-tier in both Hilton and Marriott - and I think most would agree with me -
If you don't care about free breakfast, Marriott is far better for redemption value than Hilton.
If you decide to switch, you can get a challenge to Platinum that would be easy with your travel patterns.
If you don't care about free breakfast, Marriott is far better for redemption value than Hilton.
If you decide to switch, you can get a challenge to Platinum that would be easy with your travel patterns.
#13
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Oklahoma City, OK,USA
Programs: DL Plat,AA Plat,UA 1Peon,SW(WN) Passing Grade
Posts: 902
I've been happiest with the Marriott chains for most consistency across their brands for business travel certainty......and the most options for redemptions---resorts or city hotels for vacations, ResInns for family, and those interstate interchange Fairfields for when you just need a night's sleep on a long holiday drive.
Just like airline programs, think about where you want to go/stay when redeeming......for many years my secondary program was Hyatt, but when relatives moved to another town, it's a HolInn Express that's nearest them, so earning 7 or 8 free nights on the IC/HI system became worthwhile!
Just like airline programs, think about where you want to go/stay when redeeming......for many years my secondary program was Hyatt, but when relatives moved to another town, it's a HolInn Express that's nearest them, so earning 7 or 8 free nights on the IC/HI system became worthwhile!
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus, HH Gold, Hertz PC, National Executive, etc.
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I've maintained PLT at SPG and Marriott for the last 8 years. Marriott because they have properties just about everywhere, unlike Hyatt and others. And SPG because it's been easy to keep PLT with 25-30 nights (after MR's tough 75 night threshold), their previously-unique nearly always available award, and now the enhanced benefits they just announced.
Both now have lifetime status, and added bonus. I'm gold on both and have about 2 more years to hit PLT on both. It's good to have that end-game in sight, even if it's far out on the horizon.
Both now have lifetime status, and added bonus. I'm gold on both and have about 2 more years to hit PLT on both. It's good to have that end-game in sight, even if it's far out on the horizon.

