Who maintains a table/chart of point/mile values for a wide range of programs?
#16




Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: EWR/JFK
Programs: AA GLD 1.xMM, MAR SLV, HH DMND, IHG PLT
Posts: 900
May I ask why you think AA miles value is less than UA? I have always found it easier to get seats on AA than UA/CO. AA used to better when the stop overs were allowed but the 1 way ticketing is pretty good.
BA took a nose dive after YQ started.
BA took a nose dive after YQ started.
My personal valuation, with united at 100
United 100
American 70
Delta 85
Alaska 85
US Airways 95
Aeroplan 80
British Airways 50-55
ANA 85-90
Qantas 40-45
Chase UR 110
Amex MR 90 (assuming no xfer bonuses)
SPG 190-220
IMO American and BA miles are way overvalued by most.
United 100
American 70
Delta 85
Alaska 85
US Airways 95
Aeroplan 80
British Airways 50-55
ANA 85-90
Qantas 40-45
Chase UR 110
Amex MR 90 (assuming no xfer bonuses)
SPG 190-220
IMO American and BA miles are way overvalued by most.
#18


Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,443
Purely thinking transatlantically, in terms of UA vs AA
UA: travel on UA, US, CO, LH, SN, LX, AC, OS, TK, SK, LO, VS
AA: travel on AA, BA, AY, AB, IB, EY, TN
Now, using UA miles, you can mix and match partners at will, and most partners in that list (with the exception of US and LX, IME) have great award space. No fuel surcharges.
Using AA miles, you have the insane published fare rule (which significantly limits potential routings on AB/EY/TN). IB's product is horrible, and BA has insane fuel surcharges. This essentially leaves AY with bad award space, or AA's own metal (whose product isn't too flash anyway). Hmm...
As to the subject of ultra-short haul rewards, LAN is a lot better than BA in every regard- transfer from SPG at a 2:5 ratio with the shortest awards available for only 6000 LAN km's (2400 SPG points!). In my eyes, BA Avios points are more or less in the same category as Qantas Frequent Flyer points- worthless.
UA: travel on UA, US, CO, LH, SN, LX, AC, OS, TK, SK, LO, VS
AA: travel on AA, BA, AY, AB, IB, EY, TN
Now, using UA miles, you can mix and match partners at will, and most partners in that list (with the exception of US and LX, IME) have great award space. No fuel surcharges.
Using AA miles, you have the insane published fare rule (which significantly limits potential routings on AB/EY/TN). IB's product is horrible, and BA has insane fuel surcharges. This essentially leaves AY with bad award space, or AA's own metal (whose product isn't too flash anyway). Hmm...
As to the subject of ultra-short haul rewards, LAN is a lot better than BA in every regard- transfer from SPG at a 2:5 ratio with the shortest awards available for only 6000 LAN km's (2400 SPG points!). In my eyes, BA Avios points are more or less in the same category as Qantas Frequent Flyer points- worthless.
#21




Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: Northwest, United
Posts: 3,350
What about FUEL surcharges?
Adding on to this...I've recently been hearing/seeing people post about "fuel surcharges" being tacked on for award flights - sometimes really big numbers ($700 and up). To me, that really devalues award flights, and I'd like to know which carriers do this, and get some notion of how large these fees might be for specific flights.
FWIW I've never paid a fuel surcharge (at least that I'm aware of) on any award flight, and I've taken more than a few. I'm used to various processing/ticketing fees + taxes, running up to about $100 per ticket on international flights. If I got dinged with a $700 "fuel surcharge" on top of that, I'd be pretty hacked off.
But back to the topic at hand...Does anyone know if there's a good chart showing which airlines impose fuel surcharges, and how much?
Thanks!
FWIW I've never paid a fuel surcharge (at least that I'm aware of) on any award flight, and I've taken more than a few. I'm used to various processing/ticketing fees + taxes, running up to about $100 per ticket on international flights. If I got dinged with a $700 "fuel surcharge" on top of that, I'd be pretty hacked off.
But back to the topic at hand...Does anyone know if there's a good chart showing which airlines impose fuel surcharges, and how much?
Thanks!

