Incorrectomundo - the Virgin Atlantic, the BOA Hawaiian, and the Hawaiian all HAVE annual fees. BOAHA+HOAHA=HA from the left coast or interisland hopping, VA=use a partner (Aloha Bonaire! in my case). In the case of BOAHA+HOAHA, Churn and meet the straaaange caaaases as one can never have enough Hawaiian Miles and they can be transferred with no fee (think Swaparama). VA is less churnworthy - like BA you don't wanna go there (at least on their overpriced metal).

That's 3 cards all from FIA - you sure you'll get 3 approvals?

The good thing is those three offers would results in 240K HHonors.

Other than Hilton, I haven't found any use for Hawaiian miles. BofA gave me a credit line where I could have gotten that card but I decided not worth it. OTOH VA miles can be used on CO, UA, and US and are more valuable on Hawaiian than Hawaiian miles (6K RT inter-island vs. 15K). Plus VA will likely join *A.

Swaparamability
 

As noted VA can do HA, but can't we all just get along? My VA and BoH HA and BoA HA cards all played nice together. Why use VA for HA when more optimal on CO, UA, and US? Get the BoH HA and BoA HA, stipmine the HA miles then properly dispose of the cards and move on. Ya gotta admit the BoH HA and BoA HA feed HA miles which, like Flexperks, can transfer to other parties with no fees - they definitely have Swaparamability!:p

hilton
 

Can someone please confirm for me that the 35,000 Hawaiian Airline miles earned can be converted to 70k Hilton points.

I am very interested in this, but saw someone verbiage today regarding "no transfers with 3rd party miles" and just wanted to confirm that these 35K Miles can in fact be converted to 70,000 Hilton points.

Could someone please confirm this for me?

confirm
 

Originally Posted by ddfr
Can someone please confirm for me that the 35,000 Hawaiian Airline miles earned can be converted to 70k Hilton points.

I am very interested in this, but saw someone verbiage today regarding "no transfers with 3rd party miles" and just wanted to confirm that these 35K Miles can in fact be converted to 70,000 Hilton points.

Could someone please confirm this for me?
http://www.hawaiianair.com/hawaiianm...ther-partners/


Thanks for the link below. I had seen it.

However, if you look below, when mentioning Hilton, it mentions an exclusion regarding points recieved from a third party or something like that which is why I posed the question. Has anyone sucessfully transferred the Hawaiian Miles to Hilton Points.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Check out Daraius' million mile secrets post

http://millionmilesecrets.com/2011/0...honors-points/

It worked for me. And the Million Mile Secrets post confirmed it for me before I did it.

There IS an exclusion, and the verbiage is correct in that it applies to "third-party" miles. In essence, if you were to transfer points from Amex MR to Hawaiian Miles, you wouldn't be able to transfer those miles to HH. Since the miles from these sign-up bonuses are "first party" miles, if you will, you can indeed transfer them to HH. Hope that makes sense.

Hawaiian Airlines Churnable?
 

My fault, I meant that they DID have an annual fee, thanks for correcting me. So this means that both Hawaiian airlines cards are churnable? And if so, how long do you have to wait between them? And do you have to cancel them before re-applying?

Why not also add the AMEX gold rewards and the AMEX business gold rewards cards to your list. You can get them to match targeted promos for 175K amex points.

I flip flop them every year. Can't say exactly the minimum time to flipflop. Do cancel them, but then I have been known to multiflipflop on occasion, as when I concurrently held more than one SWA card to help the mint protect its dollars from thieving guards.:p

I doubt that you are able to have AMEX match targeted promo unless it was targeted to you.

Not anymore you can't...check the latest AMEX threads here. Some people were even promised the promos and aren't having them honored. I signed up under the impression that I'd get these bonus matches and nada.