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Yas46377 Oct 6, 2011 5:30 pm

What's confusing about it? Seems pretty straightforward. Even though she might have been overclarifying a bit with the "if you submit a new account application" part since the program is new enough that I doubt anyone would already be applying for that card a 2nd time.

masonp123 Oct 6, 2011 7:47 pm


Originally Posted by Yas46377 (Post 17232437)
What's confusing about it? Seems pretty straightforward. Even though she might have been overclarifying a bit with the "if you submit a new account application" part since the program is new enough that I doubt anyone would already be applying for that card a 2nd time.

But doesn't that response appear to conflict with the T&C's which apparently were changed to rule out previous UA card holders?

Here is the added verbiage which seems to contradict the info the previous poster rec'd from Chase:

"This one-time bonus offer is only valid for first-time United MileagePlus Explorer cardmembers with new accounts. Previous and existing United Airlines cardmembers/accounts are not eligible for this bonus offer".

Yas46377 Oct 6, 2011 8:42 pm

Hmm I see your point. But couldn't the 2nd sentence mean Previous and existing cardmemembers/accounts in the context of just the Explorer card/program. But maybe the best way to be sure is to reference that specific line of the T&C in an SM to United.

beltway Oct 6, 2011 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by freezone (Post 17231845)
if they stick with the 6 month rule

Does. Not. Exist.

Yas46377 Oct 6, 2011 9:59 pm

beltway -Just be clear are you saying the 6 month rule doesn't exist in the context we were talking about in the context of applying for a new card with Chase every 6 months? I thought it was a bad idea to cancel a card before 6 months especially if you do it with multiple card with the same bank so they think you only sign up for the bonus.

vdostoi1 Oct 7, 2011 6:51 am


Originally Posted by metoo (Post 17232165)
Kinda confusing answer but does it seem like a "yes" that I would receive the bonus miles for the UA Explorer Card?

Received my reply today:

From: Credit Card Support
Subject: Re: Other/Inquiry Not Listed
Message:


Dear XXXXXXX

Thank you for contacting Chase regarding the new Mileage
Plus Explorer program.

While you would not be eligible for a new account bonus on
another Mileage Plus Signature account, since the Mileage
Plus Explorer is a new program, you would be eligible for
the new account bonus miles if you submit a new account
application.

If you have any further questions, please reply using the
Secure Message Center.

Thank you,

Linda Lundelius
E-mail Customer Service Advisor

1-800-436-7927

Account is owned by Chase Bank USA, N.A. and may be
serviced by its affiliates.


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card information.
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Original Message Follows:
------------------------


There is a new United Explorer Credit Card. If I plan to
apply for it and be approved, will I be able to receive
the bonus miles even if I have the UA Mileage Plus
Signature Visa or have HAD the UA Mileage Plus Signature
Visa before?

Thanks,
XXXXX

This is good news, indeed, for all of us with existing MileagePlus Visa Signature Cards.

jmastron Oct 7, 2011 11:15 am

Is the MP Explorer card part of the "Choices" program that the current MP Visa has? This is the ability to redeem miles as a statement credit against UA ticket purchases (at 1c/mile). Originally only card-earned miles were counted, but apparently now all of your UA miles can be used.

I didn't see any mention in the Explorer card terms, but it hasn't been highlighted well even for the existing cards.

drewguy Oct 7, 2011 11:26 am


Originally Posted by Yas46377 (Post 17233273)
Hmm I see your point. But couldn't the 2nd sentence mean Previous and existing cardmemembers/accounts in the context of just the Explorer card/program. But maybe the best way to be sure is to reference that specific line of the T&C in an SM to United.

It could mean that, but it could easily have specifically said "Explorer Card". As written it could mean any Chase United card, hence the source of confusion (although the email posted above certainly lends some clarity).

garykung Oct 8, 2011 10:08 am


Originally Posted by drewguy (Post 17230654)
Sorry. On point one - the only double dipping that has been precluded is opening one account for CO (post 7/19/11) and one for UA--correct?

For such purpose, double dipping means:

1. You have received a bonus for a CO OP+ after 07/19/11, and/or

2. You have received a bonus previously for having a Chase UA Card prior to 07/19/2011 (regardless it is open or not).


Originally Posted by freezone (Post 17231845)
Only problem with this is for someone like my wife (or others) that applied for the CO card in mid July but still pre- 7/19, but if they stick with the 6 month rule then can't cancel the card until 6 months have past, which means Jan 2012.

AFAIK, your "6-month" rule does not exist.

The one that I know (that was used to in effect) is you can't get another bonus before 6 months.


Originally Posted by masonp123 (Post 17233050)
But doesn't that response appear to conflict with the T&C's which apparently were changed to rule out previous UA card holders?

Here is the added verbiage which seems to contradict the info the previous poster rec'd from Chase:

"This one-time bonus offer is only valid for first-time United MileagePlus Explorer cardmembers with new accounts. Previous and existing United Airlines cardmembers/accounts are not eligible for this bonus offer".

I said this again - don't trust the agent - read the actual T&Cs.

If you have to argue this in court, which one will be more acceptable?

Yas46377 Oct 8, 2011 10:24 am

You have a point there, I suppose going by the T&C makes more sense. So I guess I luck out since I have never had a UA card before and I'll cancel my OnePass card in December before it converts! Maybe sooner if the UA 60,000 offer comes out in November for only a limited period!

metoo Oct 8, 2011 11:48 am

GaryKung

" Previous and existing United Airlines cardmembers/accounts are not eligible for this bonus offer".

The above is what is confusing. Existing UA cardmembers as in UA Mileage Plus or UA Explorer?

If it is ANY UA credit card, then I think alot of us do not qualify for the bonus miles.

BTW, what the heck is AFAIK? I see this quite often on other threads as well

kfennell Oct 8, 2011 11:57 am

AFAIK -> As Far As I Know

kiam Oct 8, 2011 12:35 pm

I did 3 months window for 3 applications last year, all were approved.

sadd Oct 8, 2011 6:46 pm

where is the link? I could not find here.

Happy Oct 8, 2011 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by beltway (Post 17233601)
Does. Not. Exist.


Originally Posted by Yas46377 (Post 17233631)
beltway -Just be clear are you saying the 6 month rule doesn't exist in the context we were talking about in the context of applying for a new card with Chase every 6 months? I thought it was a bad idea to cancel a card before 6 months especially if you do it with multiple card with the same bank so they think you only sign up for the bonus.

If we are talking about the one application per 6 months...

It does not exist for many people. It does exist for some unfortunate souls.

Nobody can tell exactly how and when it would be applied to some but not to others.

Based on observation it seems newbies are having an easier time than old timers in term of this one card every 6 months rule - as Chase tends to be exceedingly generous to new customers - market share acquisition policy I suppose.

If we are talking about Chase would claw back bonus if card being cancelled before having it for 6 months, I believe the CO card does not have this specific clause. In the past the UA cards (almost all of them) did have this clause. I can tell you that I have had 30K UA miles clawed back - 2 months after closing the account which was about 4 months at the time of closure.

Other Chase cards - the Marriott card DEFINITELY has that clause in the T&C. I dont remember IHG card has it or not. Hyatt card the bonus is not from Chase but from Hyatt (free night certs) so that does not apply.


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